Anybody dynoed ebay headers?

[SleeperSolara]

Fitment for the Ebay headers are crap.
My friend had them on his Camry wit a 1MZFE.

[SirThomas8]

IIRC it was the y-pipe that wouldn't line up right

Whoever it was on here who posted the guide on installing headers and y-pipe noted that they had a really tough time getting the y-pipe to line up with the headers, if I remember correctly.

The headers themselves seemed to fit fine.

[EricSol]

$1600 gets the whole exhaust but don't forget we include an high flow obd2 cat and you need a sim for the obx's. Even figuring in that we are more expensive.......

On topic, if I remember right I think I added 30whp with the exhaust.

JPP headers are indeed nice. i have purchased a couple sets a while back when there were no other headers available.

$350 VS $1600 Hmm let me think about that for a second... Ok i am going with the OBX for $350, plus $250 for SwainTech to cermaic coat them.

[trd4life]

true the JP does come with a bolt on cat i forgot about that

[jetbtkng]

jpp is a waste of money, a jpp complete exhaust is about $2300 you can buy a cat for a $100, so instead of $2300, you can get a complete obx exhaust & headers, with a cat for about $825, so jpp is a waste of about $1400, that could be used for other mods, as in jims fuel mod, fuel pump, injectors, & safc, used of course................

[Midias]

jpp is a waste of money, you can buy a cat for a $100, so instead of $1600, you can get a complete obx exhaust & headers, with a cat for about $825, so jpp is a waste of about $600, that could be used for other mods, as in jims fuel mod, fuel pump, injectors, & safc, used of course................

Hell you can buy a thunderbolt stainless spun highflow cat for about 50

[SirThomas8]

$1600 gets the whole exhaust but don't forget we include an high flow obd2 cat and you need a sim for the obx's. Even figuring in that we are more expensive.......

On topic, if I remember right I think I added 30whp with the exhaust.

true, but i'd rather pay an exhaust shop $200 to custom weld one in there anyways. Roughly $300 for headers, another $300 (roughly) for cat-back, plus $200 for high flow cat still comes out to about half of the cost of the JPP. and as an added benefit you have a spare resonator from the OBX if you replace it with a cat.

[Midias]

don't forget we include an high flow obd2 cat

Thats only about 50-75 dollars

[EricSol]

Where can you find an HIGH FLOW CALIFORNIA OBD-II COMPLIANT CATALYTIC CONVERTER for $50?.

don't forget we include an high flow obd2 cat

Thats only about 50-75 dollars

[EricSol]

Jp's is expensive, but not nearly as far as one would think. The cat we use is closer to $200 not $100 (I still pass CA stringent sniff test emissions all these years later). We use a Magnaflow 3" polished stainless muffler, not a $50 knock off in addition to two 3" resonators and the whole thing is ceramic coated, another $400-$500. So if the OBX is $825 by your calculations, now add the extra cost of a CA compliant cat +$100 more, Magnaflow +$100 more , ceramic coating +$400, two 3" resonators +$150 more and $100 for a shop to install the cat for about $1675. Comparisons are fine as long as they are equal.

jpp is a waste of money, a jpp complete exhaust is about $2300 you can buy a cat for a $100, so instead of $2300, you can get a complete obx exhaust & headers, with a cat for about $825, so jpp is a waste of about $1400, that could be used for other mods, as in jims fuel mod, fuel pump, injectors, & safc, used of course................

[jetbtkng]

#1 obx comes with a great souding muffle, so scratch the muffler, #2 you use your stock cat, have the muffler shop weld on the flanges, as i only run without a cat until smog time, then you bolt in your stock cat, #3 as for resonators obx has 3, #4 why waste money on ceramic coating, the pipes are stainless steel, so lets add it up, obx complete exhaust $ 725, to weld flanges on cat, & test pipe $80, cost of cat $ 000, need no muffler because obx is great sounding, so cost is $ 0, so lets add it up, ummmm $805, and a complete jpp exhaust $2300, so your paying $1500 more for nothing, so i would say obx is the clear winner, in quality & price, jpp might have been ok 6 years ago, but now there just a waste of money period...................

[Midias]

^ I thought JP sent you a different cat so you could pass.


GzNutz had cat CEL codes and I remember a few others did as well.

The magnaflow stainless muffler is about 100 to 150 and the resonators can be bought in mild steel for less than 40 each. If you go stainless I think I paid 70 each for mine. Not sure why for that price they could not do all stainless.

[EricSol]

The JPP's are $1600, not $2300. Now we are at $800 diff not $1500. The cali spec high flow cat will outperform the factory cat all day long. Not everybody wants to run w/o a cat.....get caught in cali and the fine is unbelievable. While you may prefer to run around w/o a cat, I prefer to drive around cali with a non-restrictive cat. As much as you don't see the need for a high flow cat, others do +$200 for now a $600 diff.

Thermal coating, I am assuming you are only looking at the corrosion resistance;

why waste money on ceramic coating, the pipes are stainless steel

and not the main benefit which is its thermal benefits. Again you don't feel its important but many others do, ie: most all NASCAR teams, Indy car teams, TRD....I have personally seen there stuff at the coaters along side JPP's. +$400 for a $200 dollar difference.

Sound, I'm sure the OBX no name muffler sounds every bit as good as the Magnaflow and you don't see the need for a lifetime warrantied quality muffler. Working in an exhaust shop we see what lasts and what doesn't. Chinese mufflers don't last, we have replaced hundreds of them.

You may be comfortable switching out cats every smog time, cutting your wiring harness to add a simulator, replacing your blown out Chinese mufflers every couple of years.....others are not.

These are two different product's for two different customers. When we set out to make these headers we built them for what I wanted in an exhaust system. OBX did a good job in copying our design and giving you what you wanted in an exhaust system.

A good analogy would be car speakers, while I run $1k 6.5" components in my doors my girlfriend has $100 6.5" components in hers. On the surface they appear the same, both are 6.5" components with separate crossovers but you start digging into them the differences become very clear. I would no sooner run hers in my doors as she would run mine, to her she can't see the $900 difference, to me it's obvious. Two different products for two different people.

I don't see winners or loser's, rather two products targeted at two different customers. To me it seems both company's did a good job of filling a niche in the market, as witnessed by your passion for their product.

#1 obx comes with a great souding muffle, so scratch the muffler, #2 you use your stock cat, have the muffler shop weld on the flanges, as i only run without a cat until smog time, then you bolt in your stock cat, #3 as for resonators obx has 3, #4 why waste money on ceramic coating, the pipes are stainless steel, so lets add it up, obx complete exhaust $ 725, to weld flanges on cat, & test pipe $80, cost of cat $ 000, need no muffler because obx is great sounding, so cost is $ 0, so lets add it up, ummmm $805, and a complete jpp exhaust $2300, so your paying $1500 more for nothing, so i would say obx is the clear winner, in quality & price, jpp might have been ok 6 years ago, but now there just a waste of money period...................

[jetbtkng]

um no body is racing there cars in nascar, obx is made here in the usa, and the high flow cats are still restrictive, and for a complete jpp exhaust is $2300, 1999-2002 Toyota Solara V6 Headers/Y-Pipe
$1599
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1999-2002 Solara V6 3 inch Cat Back Exhaust
$699, i think you need to do more research, as i said a waste of money, period, and im making 304. 5 whp with obx, i havent seen jpp do that, so to all who want the best performance exhaust for our cars, obx is the best by far..................

[Mr_Krispy1183]

^Frank,

Eric is only justifying the R&D that went into the JP headers (since he himself was responsible for their existence, along with the fabricators at JP). Without their efforts, OBX would never have been able to find something to clone so well (and we would be stuck with the ultra-crappy first gen style headers).

JPP will make the same numbers if you ran them on the same exact car with an OBX setup.