gabe's bbk track tested.

by **jetbtkng** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:33 pm

ya bob's got the tt rotors, his car really handled great, and he flew into those corners, if he would have had the stock setup he could have never entered those corners that fast, i know i was there............... :drinking:

by **Midias** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:38 pm

Very cool when things pan out for me again and the Rochester economy stops sucking I may be doing this upgrade.

by **bbq bob** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:57 pm

i have the supra rotors on the front, and i will be installing the 96 es300/camry wagon calipers and rotors on the rear. can't wait to get back to the track with the rear setup. looking to drop lap times again.

by **LEE337** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:09 pm

bbq bob wrote:i've got the dual piston calipers and the red stuff ebs brake pads.

Ill be going with the EBC Redstuff pads as well.
Did you have to grind the relocation bracket to get the twin piston caliper to fit??? Pics???

by **bbq bob** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:29 pm

i think greg ground mine when he put them in for me.pics are in gabe's thread about his bbk. i thing it's under trd4life pic of supra tt big brake on bbq bob's camry in the aftermarket upgrades page 2. :drinking:

by **RON** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:53 am

bbq bob wrote:i've got the dual piston calipers and the red stuff ebc brake pads. as to why toyota went with cheaper calipers is because they are cheaper! cost is a big deal when making cars or bikes. you should ask harley why they changed thier crank bearings from the timkin bearing to roller bearings. they are cheaper to make and setup. toyota did the same thing. ron, you can stick with the cheap crap. you don't track anymore. i like the brakes. i'm looking forward to the rear setup. i've heard alot of crap about gabe's setup on this site. well i did the track test and for the cash invested this is one of my best upgrades. A+ for gabe's big brake kit.

I just put on Gabe's kit today also went with the larger rear ES300 rotors. Used stock calipers on both ends. Nice..stops on a dime. I don't know why Toyota switched from duals up front. Glad to see they're working for you on the track! I was just having this *debate* for discussion purposes....people make assumptions and act based on those assumptions. It's amazing how some of them are based on fallacy. I just wanted to point out that those thinking that those have more stopping power (than stock) are incorrect. However, they *may* have the advantage of running a bit cooler in the pads (larger) with less pad wear as well. As far as the stock calipers being *crap* compared to the duals....they're both really the SAME product with a slightly different configuration. It's not like they switched to a FRAM oil filter from the Toyota brand :lol:

by **RON** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:56 am

bbq bob wrote:i think greg ground mine when he put them in for me.pics are in gabe's thread about his bbk. i thing it's under trd4life pic of supra tt big brake on bbq bob's camry in the aftermarket upgrades page 2.

I had to F##Kn grind both STOCK brackets. :evil:

I just sent Gabe a PM on this. For some reason, the kit has TWO styles of bolts, when they all could be the *round* allen bolt version..I think.

by **LEE337** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:03 am

RON wrote:
bbq bob wrote:i think greg ground mine when he put them in for me.pics are in gabe's thread about his bbk. i thing it's under trd4life pic of supra tt big brake on bbq bob's camry in the aftermarket upgrades page 2.

I had to F##Kn grind both STOCK brackets.
I just sent Gabe a PM on this. For some reason, the kit has TWO styles of bolts, when they all could be the *round* allen bolt version..I think.

So your sayin that in order to fit the stock single piston caliper you had to do some grinding??? There is a reason why he went with two styles of bolts, for clearence reasons. Gabe is a very reasonable guy, Im sure if you call and talk to him he would set your mind at ease.

by **akora12** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:00 am

Why would all allen-head bolts be necessary? The hex bolts come through from the back side of the brackets where there is a ton of clearance.

I think the nature of our kit being totally custom is why a bit of grinding is necessary to make this work. An hour of grinding is totally worth the outcome IMO.

by **trd4life** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:46 am

I'd be glad to include all round head allen bolts with the kit , i just didnt think i needed to. I have been going off feedback from other customers and up until now everyone has been telling me that just 4 of those allen bolts were needed.

by **jetbtkng** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:44 pm

are you sure you didnt put the brackets on backwards ron.............. :drinking:

by **RON** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:34 pm

akora12 wrote:Why would all allen-head bolts be necessary? The hex bolts come through from the back side of the brackets where there is a ton of clearance.

I think the nature of our kit being totally custom is why a bit of grinding is necessary to make this work. An hour of grinding is totally worth the outcome IMO.

It doesn't matter if you have the heads on the BACK because you then have to deal with the F#KN NUTS that will be on the front and they will interfere with the caliper bracket as well. That's why they should have the same ROUND bolts for the adapter mounting which would go in front to back (no rubbing on the caliper bracket). BTW, you can't switch the Hex heads to the caliper bracket mount (in order to use the rounds on the adapter) because they're too F#KN long!

by **RON** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:40 pm

jetbtkng wrote:are you sure you didnt put the brackets on backwards ron..............

I don't think you can do that even if you try (calipers won't mount)...it's pretty obvious. :lol:

by **jetbtkng** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:01 pm

all i know ron is i was there when greg put bbq bob's bbk on and there wasnt any big issues when it was installed, maybe your having an acid flash back, from when you were a hippie, lol..................... :drinking:

by **bbq bob** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:52 pm

how did the back go? i'm getting ready to install the rear setup.

gabe's bbk track tested.

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