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Offset, Spacers, What kind? (avalon)

Offset, Spacers, What kind? (avalon)

Postby GreeKAvaLoN » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:39 pm

I know, wrong forum, nothing else really though. From what I've "researched" Avalons have 34-42mm (can anyone verify? Where else can i check?) I've seen that Solaras have 45mm ? If i get 50mm offset wheels will they work? what spacer? do i need one? What's safest?

Also, what is the offset of a sienna? My dad is complaining about his rims too.. =/

Sorry for questions, I've never dealt with rims so I'm not sure. No Avalon sites either, so I came to hope solaraguys can help out =]



[edit: added sienna ques]
are avalons supposed to be this fast?
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Postby Midias » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:47 pm

Personally I am not a fan of spacers that don't have a hub centric ring. Also if they come with longer studs use them.
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Postby GreeKAvaLoN » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:50 pm

Exactly how do they work? Do I take the difference of the rim's offset from the car's offset then get that size spacer? So would I need 10mm? Will they look all ghetto and stick out of the fenders? =/
are avalons supposed to be this fast?
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Postby .onetohate » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:13 pm

Grab a spacer that comes with extended wheel studs..
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not these ones because they will only work if the wheels have spaces behind them so they're not too versatile and finding wheels are gonna be a bit of a pain..
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to figure out the ending offset WITH the spacer.. take my wheels for example, the offset is +40 . But with the 20mm spacer- it brings them down to +20.

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Postby Midias » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:16 pm

I have the kind you bolt on with regular studs they work great with my rims.
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Postby Mr_Krispy1183 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:57 pm

.onetohate wrote:Grab a spacer that comes with extended wheel studs..
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not these ones because they will only work if the wheels have spaces behind them so they're not too versatile and finding wheels are gonna be a bit of a pain..
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to figure out the ending offset WITH the spacer.. take my wheels for example, the offset is +40 . But with the 20mm spacer- it brings them down to +20.

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I'm with Marco on this. Any use of spacers over 5mm should be the ones with replacement extended lugs, and should have the hubcentric lip so as to prevent vibration. Scratch that, even the 5mm ones should be the same, I don't trust the ones with lugs pressed in to not shear of your factory lugs.
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Postby akora12 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:05 pm

You also need to take in consideration the tire and wheel width. I don't know the offset requirements for the avalon, but I'm guessing anything above +45 offset will require some sort of spacer.
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Postby TRDSleeper » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:23 pm

Sorry to thread jack but since we are talking about spacers, does anyone know if 5mm spacers have the center lip for hubcentric rings to sit on? I just bought 20mm Ichiba spacers and they are too thick for my preference so if I can get away with having 5mm spacers instead then it would be great. I just want to be able to use the hubcentric rings.
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Postby Mr_Krispy1183 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:31 pm

^If the 5mm are from Ichiba as well, I would think they would also have the hubcentric lip. Also, out of curiosity, what is your wheel/tire setup/size? I am waiting on some 15mm spacers to come in and be installed, but I'm curious as to why you'd go from 20 to 5.

EDIT:The 5mm Ichibas & H&Rs do NOT have the lip. BUT, from my understanding, you should still be able to fit a hubcentric ring onto the stock hub with a 5mm spacer installed, since the spacer would be relatively thin and leave space for the ring to attach to the hub lip.
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Postby Midias » Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:55 am

Mr_Krispy1183 wrote:^If the 5mm are from Ichiba as well, I would think they would also have the hubcentric lip. Also, out of curiosity, what is your wheel/tire setup/size? I am waiting on some 15mm spacers to come in and be installed, but I'm curious as to why you'd go from 20 to 5.

EDIT:The 5mm Ichibas & H&Rs do NOT have the lip. BUT, from my understanding, you should still be able to fit a hubcentric ring onto the stock hub with a 5mm spacer installed, since the spacer would be relatively thin and leave space for the ring to attach to the hub lip.


I have ichiba spacers 5mm and I do not like them as much as the ones with a lip seems to have a bit more vibration at highway speeds.
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Postby Mr_Krispy1183 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:58 am

^Hmm, you bring up a valid point, especially since you're using the spacers in conjunction with OEM wheels. I'm still iffy if I should be running 15mm, or to call the shop and change my order to 10mm...
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Postby Midias » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:06 am

Mr_Krispy1183 wrote:^Hmm, you bring up a valid point, especially since you're using the spacers in conjunction with OEM wheels. I'm still iffy if I should be running 15mm, or to call the shop and change my order to 10mm...


I think some 10's come with lips but I have yet to see a 5mm with a lip.
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Postby akora12 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:12 am

I've had both the 5mm and 10mm H&R kits. The 5 didn't have the hubcentric lip but the 10 does. The 5mm kit is tapered near the the hubcentric ring on the hub so it sticks out far enough to still make contact with the wheel. I never had any problems with either kit, and I've used them with factory and aftermarket wheels.
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Postby Midias » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:21 am

My rims have a small chamfer on the center of the hub and with the 5mm spacer not enough of the hub was sticking through to keep the rim centered. Here is a picture brown is the hub / rotor, silver is the spacer and blue is the rim.

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Postby Mr_Krispy1183 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:22 am

^^Ryan/akora & Midias, since you seem to have played around with spacers and various wheel/tire combinations, I've got a Q for you. Do you think I'd clear 15mm spacers in the rear with my wheels/tire setup (18x8, et+37, 225/40/18 )? I've rolled the rear fenders, I'm just praying that I won't have to pull, otherwise I'm just going to call the shop that ordered my 15mm H&Rs and grab 10mms instead.
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