I Need Some Help ( tuning issues 2.4 05 5spd Lara Sport

[47TH_Ronin]

Hey guys, I just came from the track last night and am some what dissapointed. My lowest time was 15.89 @ 94mph w/ a .742 reaction time. My second time was 16.73 @ 87mph w/ .819 reaction and my worst time was 17.03 @ 84mph w/ .719 reaction time (first run and grinded the hell outa of second gear). I was running against my buddy in his 03 celica gt-s. First time he won by a lot, both other times I was literally at his side door. My thing is, I have headers, full 2.50 exhaust w/TRD axel back system, injen ram air intake, and a OBX throttle body spacer, but I can not tune my car. I should be pushing atleast 200horse ponies with mods, but I have hit a wall.....Honda has HONDATA, what does Toyota have? I looked up all kinds of tuning software for the OBD1 and 2 port, but NO ONE makes a compatible cable and the stock ECU is not programmable. I've looked aound and have not found anything so far as a programmable ECU, or even a piggy back system. Closest thing to working I think is the E MANAGE by Greddy, but from what I saw they do not have a wiring diagram, so it won't work. If any of you have any knowldge of how I can get my 2.4 solara tuned...please let me know.

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[Midias]

Wow rough and I think you mean about 170-172 ponies not 200 you are only 157 stock.

Greddy emanage is good but you should have no problem with an Apexi SAFC2

[gnegroni]

Any 1.5 gen 2.4 owners that might have some experience?

[Jakecallun20]

Wow rough and I think you mean about 170-172 ponies not 200 you are only 157 stock.

Greddy emanage is good but you should have no problem with an Apexi SAFC2

I thought the Apexi SAFC2 wasn't a power programmer for the OBDII port but something for the S/C? Maybe alot of SC owners get them and thats why I think that? Would this be a good upgrade for us N/A guys? 2.2,2.4 and 3.0,3.3? (sorry for small TJ)

[solara caper]

i havent tuned mine yet, but am runing pretty much the same bolt ons plus some internals,any way back on the subject, the only piggy back systemi would recomend is the greedy emanage ultimate, every thing else you gona find is gonna give you a head ache,unless you have a local experience tune shop around youso they can doctor up somthing for you.But like I said if you D.I.Y. get greddy emange its worth it worth it. Mine isnt installed yet i got all my parts to get boosted but work away so I wont be home to work on my ride for 5 months, however I know a chick that is running that on her o6 camry and loves itand she is the same as you but she also has her head done


Good luck

[Midias]

Wow rough and I think you mean about 170-172 ponies not 200 you are only 157 stock.

Greddy emanage is good but you should have no problem with an Apexi SAFC2

I thought the Apexi SAFC2 wasn't a power programmer for the OBDII port but something for the S/C? Maybe alot of SC owners get them and thats why I think that? Would this be a good upgrade for us N/A guys? 2.2,2.4 and 3.0,3.3? (sorry for small TJ)

I think for NA 3.0 and 3.3 the tunable CPE would be the best way to go.

But you are right the SAFC does not go into the obd 2 port it is a piggy back that lets you edit you A/F control

[Jakecallun20]

Wow rough and I think you mean about 170-172 ponies not 200 you are only 157 stock.

Greddy emanage is good but you should have no problem with an Apexi SAFC2

I thought the Apexi SAFC2 wasn't a power programmer for the OBDII port but something for the S/C? Maybe alot of SC owners get them and thats why I think that? Would this be a good upgrade for us N/A guys? 2.2,2.4 and 3.0,3.3? (sorry for small TJ)

I think for NA 3.0 and 3.3 the tunable CPE would be the best way to go.

But you are right the SAFC does not go into the obd 2 port it is a piggy back that lets you edit you A/F control

alright. That is what I thought. I don't really see the need for me to get a SAFC2 (N/A 3.0) if it is for A/F. Thanks for answering that.

[philosophicaljt]

i'm surprised you ran that fast. We have a heavy car. If you want power, get the S/C. It's pointless to build a N/A motor on a car that weighs 3k+ lbs. You will still get beat by my car, a stock 3.3l auto.



(Sorry, i had a bad day).

You cannot add up horsepower that way. If your car was 150 stock to the wheels, you are probably dyno'ing at most an additional 20hp.

For tuning, call jet chips. tell them the mods you have, and see what they say. they can at least help you get the most from what you already have.

[krawzyazn]

I have a 2.4 2az head forsale if you want to do a PnP

[solara caper]

I was looking at some jet stuff last year aren't they stil only $150 less than emanage? And you can get pretty good hp out of a N/A 2az but you have to make some internal swaps , machining , fuel upgrade and tuning.
NO offence meant or nothing man but I'm runing N/a with some pricy mods on my gen 2 lara and the thing is pretty beastly and i would put my lara against yours I already have beaten a 3.3l from a dead stop to 110ish,
As for 1/4 runs I have no idea times for my self

[Sebas007]

You have huge difference between your best race and the average ones !! What happened ?? By the way...reaction time doesn't count in your 1/4 mile time, just to let you know. 15.89 is very good I guess for the 2AZ-FE in the fatty Solara ! Maybe I would try to get all the same component as the wisebody Gen 1 guy...sorry don't remember his real name...his nick sounds like i20Solara20i, something like it. I put really nice number...around 240 whp and 260 pounds of torque. With those numbers + 5 speed you could be in low 14 or high 13. If you're serious ask him some question.

By the way, my best run ever with my car 3MZ is 14.81...I did it twice. Your 15.89 is surprising ! But I'm sure you would love to enter the 13's !

[solara caper]

Hey sebas where do you live I work on the great lakes sometimes i catch my ship in the seaway , I usually drive to catch her maybe we could meet up some time compare rides, just a thought

[Sebas007]

Like it's written under my avatar...I live south shore of Montreal, Quebec, Canada. And where you would set the appointment ?

[philosophicaljt]

And you can get pretty good hp out of a N/A 2az but you have to make some internal swaps , machining , fuel upgrade and tuning.

But you can apply that logic to any motor. If I built my motor the same way you built your's, I would still come out ahead. Does that make sense? Anyway. I actually wish at times I had the 2.4L just because I could get the 5spd. But then I floor it between stoplights, and change my mind

NO offence meant or nothing man but I'm runing N/a with some pricy mods on my gen 2 lara and the thing is pretty beastly and i would put my lara against yours I already have beaten a 3.3l from a dead stop to 110ish,
As for 1/4 runs I have no idea times for my self

You should think of adding some punctuation into that. It makes it very difficult to read without it. And If you are only running high 15's, I should still be faster.