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Talk about aftermarket Toyota Solara Gen 1-1.5 upgrades.

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Postby unbalancedwood » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:09 am

DjNoRhythm wrote:Sadly, I had already ordered the piece before I found the thread saying not to. I will probably return this or if the fellow won' ttake it back, I will complain to Ebay and Paypal about them.


even if he takes it back, if you bought it from a guy that did $5+20shipping, you wont get shipping back.
that leaves you with $5
then you have to ship it back $5
leaves you with minus $
then if he charges you a restock that leaves you more in the whole

they do that on purpose ;)
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Postby d4008 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:17 am

oh crap you as well keep and sell it to somebody else you know.
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Postby Biggi_e » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:25 am

i dont know too much about gen 1's and 1.5's but if your a v6, get the cp-e. i highly doubt u can return it back to the seller and a complaint really wont do anything. next time, try and do some research before you make a purchase, thats whats were all here for.
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Postby Midias » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:50 am

d4008 wrote:guess i got lucky with mine the acceleration is much better and all i got is a sport muffler, ngk wires and ngk plugs. so most of new found power is from the intake. maybe others would be faster but i dont have the money to buy an injen intake and find out its the same or an extra 3 hp. no way but if could do it all over again i would have got cp-e from the get go.


You should put stock back on before you fry your motor
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Postby gnegroni » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:03 am

Ah, just negative feedback or neutral the purchase... and either get back to stock, or do the Cp-e if you have the V-6 (have they modded the Cp-e for the 2AZ-FE, anybody?) :roll:
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Postby Midias » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:32 am

gnegroni wrote:Ah, just negative feedback or neutral the purchase... and either get back to stock, or do the Cp-e if you have the V-6 (have they modded the Cp-e for the 2AZ-FE, anybody?) :roll:


No one has modded one yet. I would either go injen or K&N I am curious K&N claims about 6 hp I wounder what it really is.
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Postby Midias » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:39 am

I just want to say not all ebay intakes are just the ones for the solara. Some are of decent quality but the V6 solara ones are crap.
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Postby CamryOnBronze » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:09 am

seriously at least post the parts up if you are thinking about using it and we could try to help you. An aftermarket intake is NOT going to "fry" your motor just because it isnt a CPE. It may not give you gains, but if the stock ECU is smart enough to compensate for a supercharger system, it isnt going to have a problem adjusting fuel to a safe level with an intake. It may not be the perfect level and you may not gain any power, but it wont blow up your motor. I have had an ebay intake on my gen 3 camry for over 40k miles and there is nothing wrong with the engine. I can also say there are no noticeable gains from it.

I respect your advice and trust your knowledge Midias, but its kind of annoying how most of the members on here act like they work for CPE. I know its a quality intake and I dont doubt that one bit, but it isnt true that any other intake product is going to blow your engine. It may be true that you will not get the same gains from another intake as you will from the tunable CPE, but it will still give you a short ram look and a different sound. For some people, thats all they care about and they dont have $500 to spend on a tunable intake.

Again I dont mean to offend anyone, thats just my two cents.
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Postby Midias » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:20 am

CamryOnBronze wrote:seriously at least post the parts up if you are thinking about using it and we could try to help you. An aftermarket intake is NOT going to "fry" your motor just because it isnt a CPE. It may not give you gains, but if the stock ECU is smart enough to compensate for a supercharger system, it isnt going to have a problem adjusting fuel to a safe level with an intake. It may not be the perfect level and you may not gain any power, but it wont blow up your motor. I have had an ebay intake on my gen 3 camry for over 40k miles and there is nothing wrong with the engine. I can also say there are no noticeable gains from it.

I respect your advice and trust your knowledge Midias, but its kind of annoying how most of the members on here act like they work for CPE. I know its a quality intake and I dont doubt that one bit, but it isnt true that any other intake product is going to blow your engine. It may be true that you will not get the same gains from another intake as you will from the tunable CPE, but it will still give you a short ram look and a different sound. For some people, thats all they care about and they dont have $500 to spend on a tunable intake.

Again I dont mean to offend anyone, thats just my two cents.


Like I said above not all ebay intake are bad but a three inch pipe causes the MAF to go haywire it is not a matter of compensating for an air difference it is a matter of the ECU not knowing what to do with the signals. When I had my scanner hooked up to my solara with an ebay intake installed my MAF would go crazy jumping from maxed out to almost nothing in terms of air flow under constant acceleration. This could cause a lean condition very easily ruin a vital engine component. As for supercharging when people on this forum do that they use 2.75 inch piping the MAF reads a constant signal based on the amount of incoming air and does not need to compensate because the ECU knows how to interpret that signal.

Trust me I tried to make my ebay intake work I really wanted a low cost solution I even cut a slit down it compressed it to 2.75 inch piping and JB welded it back together. It was a no go it was better on the scanner but with the MAF sitting so low and not in the middle of the intake the signal was still not correct and the readings were off. As far as I know I am the only one on here who had a custom CAI that worked with no problems and that was using a 2.75 inch HKS MAF adapter.

And once again like I said above not all ebay intakes are bad the one I put on my brothers Jimmy works great but the MAF has it's own housing and therefore reads the correct signal.

So I base my solara intake experience on my own purchases.

1. Ebay intake
2. Modified ebay intake
3. HKS adapter custom CAI
4. CPE intake
5. CPE intake with crispmongo filter.

So far CPE is by far the best.
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Postby Ruski » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:20 am

d4008 wrote:yea or the Cp-e both are great


*EDIT* Cp-e is Great :sweet: , Injen is Ok
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Postby TadS » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:31 am

CamryOnBronze wrote:Again I dont mean to offend anyone, thats just my two cents.


It's just the same group think that has been plaguing the Solara community since day 1. An ideology where we're always right, and you're always wrong, unless you agree with the establishment at the ruling council in California.

On a side note, or maybe on the primary note (since this is the thread topic, not how much your intake sucks and mine rules), this thread needs some pictures. Do you have a 4cyl, or 6cyl? It should be pretty easy to get it in there.
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Postby DatSRBoi » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:57 am

You can get that Ebay intake of yours to work. This is base of what I been reading and looking at for the past few months so if its wrong then prove me wrong. But the CPE intake itself is way bigger then stock. Yet why does it not go haywire? Well if you look at what is included, there is a little box that you plug into your ECU. Also if you line up a CPE to an ebay intake you will notice the CPE is longer too.

That proves that the money put towards the CPE is worth it since its longer so the air that flows into the pipe is given more time to correct itself before hitting the flow sensor, and you have a tuned EC that has been R&D to match your car according to their dyno test. That EC box is the main thing that is keeping the CEL light from coming on since it was tuned already to fix that air flow into usable power.

Injen intakes do not need this EC box because the pipes are small enough to where your stock FLow sensor has its full measure unlike the CPE which requires the EC box to accommodated and trick the ECU by telling it what its suppose to read.


So how do you fix this on an EBAY intake? Either cut it up and did what I did like mine and turn it to part of the stock intake, OR buy a SAFC and tune your car to the Ebay intake. It will be hard but it IS DOABLE. I know one member did it. I do not know his results but I do know he never got rid of his ebay intake long ago so I am guessing he found a way. It is a tad bit hard since you cant truely meassure the air flow but you should be able to to get the car running if you get the SAFC for it. It most likely will not make that same amount of power like a CPE would. You will also want to extend that ebay intake on the intake filter side as much as possible to give the incoming air more time to straighten up. Then if you want to go crazy you can get a supra MAF with it and youll have a fully operational intake that is from ebay. Not cheap but it works.

This only applies to V6. I4 runs on a completely different setup and a ebay intake will do just fine.

So in the end for power the CPE is cheaper route to go if you add up the cost trying to custom one to work.


THIS AN EVERYTHING I JUST SAID IS BASE OF AN EDUCATED RESEARCH ON MY OWN TIME MY OWN SELF. IF ITS WRONG THEN ITS WRONG.... AND I DID NOT TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT OVER SOME SOME PLACE COULD BE OFF A TAD BIT BUT YOU GET THE POINT OF HOW TO FIX THE EBAY INTAKE TO WORK ON OUR CARS. IF YOU CANT FIGURE IT OUT THEN YOU DONT DESERVE TO BE AROUND CARS.

If you still dont like it. Post it up for sale in the for sale section.. I might could make use of it if the price is right.

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Postby DjNoRhythm » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:06 am

OK, guys, we have gotten off track.

Note: I have a 2001 4-cyl. Not the v-6.

Here is a picture of what I bought: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 02044&rd=1

As you can see in the pictures, there is no Maf sensor in the unit.

The main pipe is considerably bigger around than the intake hole on the manifold and even with the rubber adaptor, it is still too big. Also, there really is no way to hard mount the unit . There are brackets supplied but no bungs to bolt to and no instructions to read on what they intended when they designed the unit.

I still haven't heard from the seller. If I haven't heard from them by tonight, I will start action with Ebay and Paypal to get my money back.

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Postby TadS » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:01 pm

It's just like mine, and any other 4cyl intake (they really are all alike, as best I can tell). What I did is used a bit of hose to make the IAT sensor stay in the hole. The nipples are just for you to hook hoses too. The brackets bolt to the old place for the airbox bolts and are used to hold the new intake in place. I had to order a better fitting coupler for mine to get a tight fit on the throttle body. There isn't any reason to start action towards the seller. The 4cyl isn't finicky like the V6. If you're in a hurry you can make an adapter insert using part of your factory intake. That is what I did at first, before I got the tapered hookup. If you actually want to see some gains, you can make a CAI extension for the intake using parts from a Civic intake. Check on TN for instructions to do that. Good luck on the install.
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Postby Jakecallun20 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:03 pm

DjNoRhythm wrote:OK, guys, we have gotten off track.

Note: I have a 2001 4-cyl. Not the v-6.

Here is a picture of what I bought: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 02044&rd=1

As you can see in the pictures, there is no Maf sensor in the unit.


I thought the 5SFE didnt have a MAF sensor in the intake? am I wrong?
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