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Postby cptnkoolaid » Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:29 pm

I have a 500 watt max amp and I'm wondering if I should hook this to 1 or 2 subs, and what kind of wattage those should be. Also any recommendations of what kind of subs would be nice. Thanks
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Re: Amp question

Postby pro956 » Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:31 pm

cptnkoolaid wrote:I have a 500 watt max amp and I'm wondering if I should hook this to 1 or 2 subs, and what kind of wattage those should be. Also any recommendations of what kind of subs would be nice. Thanks


you need to tell us the amp company and the model
500 watt max means nothing at all, max is a totaly bs rating
and well, unfortunately rms tend to be as well-- but not as much

give us some more info
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Re: Amp question

Postby Callen » Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:42 pm

pro956 wrote:
cptnkoolaid wrote:I have a 500 watt max amp and I'm wondering if I should hook this to 1 or 2 subs, and what kind of wattage those should be. Also any recommendations of what kind of subs would be nice. Thanks


you need to tell us the amp company and the model
500 watt max means nothing at all, max is a totaly bs rating
and well, unfortunately rms tend to be as well-- but not as much

give us some more info

WTF have you been smoking? What happens when your system tells your sub to be pushed higher than RMS? If you don't have a high peak, your sub potentially can not pound as hard.

It is not a BS rating so much as a misleading rating as with higher peak, you can get a more powerful bump, and when you have higher RMS, you can have alot more bass running (It depends on what you want).
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Re: Amp question

Postby pro956 » Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:43 pm

Callen wrote:
pro956 wrote:
cptnkoolaid wrote:I have a 500 watt max amp and I'm wondering if I should hook this to 1 or 2 subs, and what kind of wattage those should be. Also any recommendations of what kind of subs would be nice. Thanks


you need to tell us the amp company and the model
500 watt max means nothing at all, max is a totaly bs rating
and well, unfortunately rms tend to be as well-- but not as much

give us some more info

WTF have you been smoking? What happens when your system tells your sub to be pushed higher than RMS? If you don't have a high peak, your sub potentially can not pound as hard.

It is not a BS rating so much as a misleading rating as with higher peak, you can get a more powerful bump, and when you have higher RMS, you can have alot more bass running (It depends on what you want).


everyone, ignore this post, this person has no clue about car audio... or any audio for that matter, also seems to have trouble with the english language

enjoy your audiobahn's, hey why not try sending them their recommended RMS watts/max watts (but not from some junk amp that simply says "_watts rms/_ watts max" an amp that really puts out the power it claims to), you'll have a nice smoke machine in your car

cptnkoolaid, let us know what amp you have...
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Postby cptnkoolaid » Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:08 pm

Sorry about the confusion. I am running a Bazooka EL series Mono 300 watt amp. It is running to two MTX RT10's(200 watt RMS) but I want to get rid of those and get some other better sounding one's
The amp can be found at this site
http://www.bazooka.com/productAutoAmpli ... asp?id=197
The subs can be found at this site
http://www.circuitcity.com/detail.jsp?B ... ee&c=1&b=g
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Re: Amp question

Postby B_Master_Flash » Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:54 pm

Callen wrote:WTF have you been smoking? What happens when your system tells your sub to be pushed higher than RMS? If you don't have a high peak, your sub potentially can not pound as hard.

It is not a BS rating so much as a misleading rating as with higher peak, you can get a more powerful bump, and when you have higher RMS, you can have alot more bass running (It depends on what you want).


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Postby B_Master_Flash » Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:03 pm

cptnkoolaid wrote:Sorry about the confusion. I am running a Bazooka EL series Mono 300 watt amp. It is running to two MTX RT10's(200 watt RMS) but I want to get rid of those and get some other better sounding one's
The amp can be found at this site
http://www.bazooka.com/productAutoAmpli ... asp?id=197
The subs can be found at this site
http://www.circuitcity.com/detail.jsp?B ... ee&c=1&b=g


Well the ratings on those subs are wierd (bogus). 300w@4ohm, 400w@2ohm, 500w Max(?). I have no idea how they got their ratings, but I'll assume for its sake its about a 300w RMS @ 2 ohms. What you should do IMO, is get a single 10 or 12 and a big ported box for it. That amp doesn't have enough juice to get much sound out of a sealed sub, so let the box do the work. I would recommend a 2cuft box for a 10 and a 3 cu.ft box for a 12, with some good size ports tuned to about 34hz. That will squeeze all the SPL out of that amp you can get. What kind of money do you have to spend on subs? I would recommend a kicer comp or maybe an alpine type R.
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Re: Amp question

Postby prophesized » Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:08 pm

Callen wrote:
WTF have you been smoking?


whatever it is, its not as good as your stuff :lol:
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Postby pro956 » Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:31 pm

cptnkoolaid wrote:Sorry about the confusion. I am running a Bazooka EL series Mono 300 watt amp. It is running to two MTX RT10's(200 watt RMS) but I want to get rid of those and get some other better sounding one's
The amp can be found at this site
http://www.bazooka.com/productAutoAmpli ... asp?id=197
The subs can be found at this site
http://www.circuitcity.com/detail.jsp?B ... ee&c=1&b=g


looks like you're in a tight situation, if i were you i'd stick all that stuff on ebay and start over
that amp probably does a teeny bit under 300w rms at 4ohms and 400 at 2ohms-- judging from it's 60 amp fuse size
if u really want to keep the amp, swap the subs out for a decent 12" and you should be happy

make sure it's 4ohm dvc so you can run the amp at 2ohms mono

IM me or PM me and i'll try to help you out, with what sub u might want and box design
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Postby B_Master_Flash » Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:17 pm

Actually, do you still have those subs? If so I would just suggest rebuilding your box. Like I said, that's really the only way you're going to get more bass out of that amp. If you replace the 2 10's w/ a single 10, I guarantee your SPL will go down, even if the new 10 has a way higher sensitivity. Keeping the same box/amp and just replacing the drivers, you would be looking at about a 1-2 DB gain. Build a good ported box for those 10s you could be looking at about a 4-6 DB gain.
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Postby pro956 » Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:06 pm

B_Master_Flash wrote:Actually, do you still have those subs? If so I would just suggest rebuilding your box. Like I said, that's really the only way you're going to get more bass out of that amp. If you replace the 2 10's w/ a single 10, I guarantee your SPL will go down, even if the new 10 has a way higher sensitivity. Keeping the same box/amp and just replacing the drivers, you would be looking at about a 1-2 DB gain. Build a good ported box for those 10s you could be looking at about a 4-6 DB gain.


i don't think that's the best idea...
those subs are total a$s, he can get tons more bass out of that amp with different sub/subs. certain subs are more efficient than others-- meaning, some subs (having the same diameter) require less power to push to full excursion. on top of that the amount of excusion (linear or whatever the hell u want to look at) will have a result of more or less air being pushed.
swap out the subs, get a decent 12 (he could even get a single 10 sealed and end up with a louder end result-- i've heard those 10s and single 10s with 250w rms that were louder), and you'll be happy whichever way you box it, i'd recommend sealed...

like i said msg me and i'll glady put you in the right direction
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Postby PureNocence » Fri Mar 19, 2004 9:34 pm

I think that whole "idea" of bigger amp = better sounding system. In all honesty, I have only a 300 watt JL amp to run my 2 JL 10's and a 100 watt Eclipse amp to run my components and I'm happy with it. The subs slam enough for me...then again, I'm not into that whole "trunk going to fly off soon" sound :roll:
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Postby Callen » Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:18 am

Ok, so RMS isn't continuous power, and peak isn't the max power. Thanks for clearing it up.

Can you damn monkeys try giving insight to why I'm wrong? wait no I could give a fk what you guys say about audiobahns,,, when I turn up the power it's cleaner than other subs I hear, and I've been running it constantly for months, and have yet to see smoke (when i'm not hotboxing).

OK OK so if they are such crap, then why don't you tell me the sub inside the enclosure that I can get for $150, and I'll check it out. ORRRRRRRRRRR you can just add some posts about how much of an idiot i am.

English language???? WTF are you talking about and WTF does it have to do with ANYTHING? dmbss
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Postby pro956 » Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:01 pm

get a shiva,
crazy bang for the buck, nice sq too...
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Postby Callen » Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:57 pm

I can't find any shiva on the internet are they private company?
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