Do we really have 225hp stock ??

[Sebas007]

Hi guys,
when Toyota drop from 225hp to 210 HP for the 3.3L V6 for the Camry I was sure they would do the same for the Solara but they didn't. Why is so different, or what restrictive part they putted on the Camry SE V6 to lose 15 hp ? If I use dyno chart from CP-E for other cars I can see that the wheel hp are in a ratio of 0.8 form the engine hp.

Mazda 6 220hp gives 175 whp (0.795 * engine hp) http://www.cp-e.com/2018.html?id=GqQfSFHS

Nissan Altima 245 hp gives 200 whp a (0.816 ratio) http://www.cp-e.com/2003.html?id=GqQfSFHS

Now our 3.3L V6 225hp supposed to gives around 180 whp (stock) instead it gives 170 whp on the graph for the stock again....170 whp....ok if I calculate 210 engine hp with the 0.8 wheel lost ratio its gives...nooo 170 whp !! http://www.cp-e.com/2018.html?id=GqQfSFHS

Conclusion, I almost sure that our engine are 210 hp as the Camry 3.3L...what do you think guys ??

[Sebas007]

I forgot to tell about the Subaru Impreza STI 300 hp and 250whp ratio of 0.833 http://www.cp-e.com/2004.html?id=GqQfSFHS

you can see that the average lost hp at the wheel is around 0.81 not 0.75 like the 3.3L (170whp/225hp)

[Sebas007]

so with the same ratio (0.75) I calculte a gain around 13hp and 16 torque starting from the Camry number 210hp/220 lbs torque it would ives 223hp/236 torque...around our "stock" number...and ooh suprise the line with the CP-E intake gives the 180 whp I calculted witht he 225 * 0.8 ratio

Hope the idea is clear enough for you folks, I tried in aminimum o time to explain that stuff, that seems more like an evidence, a sad one ! I'm hurry to install my MAFci to get my real Solara on the road !

[theprodigy79]

Several of us did notice that the WHP for our 3.3 was a bit lower than expected in that test... however there are other factors involved as well, such as the fact that he has a convertable which weighs a few hundred pouds more than the coupe.

I DEFINITELY recommend the CP-E intake though... you will fall in love with it the first time you hear it roar (and I can definitely feel the difference)

[Somedude]

I noticed that the 06 Camry has 154 horses while the Solara has 157 horses, are they lying to people or something? Every Toyota model for the 06 year has less horsepower than 04 or 05, how can the Solara be the exception?

[Sebas007]

Several of us did notice that the WHP for our 3.3 was a bit lower than expected in that test... however there are other factors involved as well, such as the fact that he has a convertable which weighs a few hundred pouds more than the coupe.

I DEFINITELY recommend the CP-E intake though... you will fall in love with it the first time you hear it roar (and I can definitely feel the difference)

Don't worry prodigy, I will never talk of CP-E in a bad way...I'm pretty sure that next week when I will install it (I do the electric connections stuff tomorrow) I will love it...but the thing is that I'm sure that the 3.3L don't push 225 hp/240 torque maybe just before installing the CP-e MAFci

I noticed that the 06 Camry has 154 horses while the Solara has 157 horses, are they lying to people or something? Every Toyota model for the 06 year has less horsepower than 04 or 05, how can the Solara be the exception?

It's what I think and there are facts out there...this not prove at 100% but enough to get a good idea that's something wrong going on.

[angelo]

Hi guys,
when Toyota drop from 225hp to 210 HP for the 3.3L V6 for the Camry I was sure they would do the same for the Solara but they didn't. Why is so different, or what restrictive part they putted on the Camry SE V6 to lose 15 hp ? If I use dyno chart from CP-E for other cars I can see that the wheel hp are in a ratio of 0.8 form the engine hp.

Mazda 6 220hp gives 175 whp (0.795 * engine hp) http://www.cp-e.com/2018.html?id=GqQfSFHS

Nissan Altima 245 hp gives 200 whp a (0.816 ratio) http://www.cp-e.com/2003.html?id=GqQfSFHS

Now our 3.3L V6 225hp supposed to gives around 180 whp (stock) instead it gives 170 whp on the graph for the stock again....170 whp....ok if I calculate 210 engine hp with the 0.8 wheel lost ratio its gives...nooo 170 whp !! http://www.cp-e.com/2018.html?id=GqQfSFHS

Conclusion, I almost sure that our engine are 210 hp as the Camry 3.3L...what do you think guys ??

the certified ratings for 3.3l (used in Camry, Solara and ES) is 210 hp on regular and 218 hp on premium.
When you compare the hp at the wheels you have to have in mind that the auto tranny power loss is between 5-10% bigger than the manual tranny and Mazda 6 and Altima are avaliable with manuals.

[swindler]

Don't worry prodigy, I will never talk of CP-E in a bad way...I'm pretty sure that next week when I will install it (I do the electric connections stuff tomorrow) I will love it...but the thing is that I'm sure that the 3.3L don't push 225 hp/240 torque maybe just before installing the CP-e MAFci

Hey Sebas007, did you get your MAFci shipped? I ordered mine a couple of weeks ago, and Josh told me they're still holding up on the '06 shipments to make sure the MAFci works well with that year. It's the same story posted elsewhere here that a guy up in Canada had problems after he installed it. Probably the user, but CP-e is trying to be sure.

If you got yours, then I should be getting mine soon. But I haven't heard from them this week.

[Sebas007]

Don't worry prodigy, I will never talk of CP-E in a bad way...I'm pretty sure that next week when I will install it (I do the electric connections stuff tomorrow) I will love it...but the thing is that I'm sure that the 3.3L don't push 225 hp/240 torque maybe just before installing the CP-e MAFci

Hey Sebas007, did you get your MAFci shipped? I ordered mine a couple of weeks ago, and Josh told me they're still holding up on the '06 shipments to make sure the MAFci works well with that year. It's the same story posted elsewhere here that a guy up in Canada had problems after he installed it. Probably the user, but CP-e is trying to be sure.

If you got yours, then I should be getting mine soon. But I haven't heard from them this week.

Yeah blame Canada !! hehe...the guy is a pure Texan american. He used butt dyno and did some 0-60 to concluded that he wasn't happy with it...maybe he did not connect right the CP-e module I don't know. For your info I will test on dyno next saturday April 8th.

[Sebas007]

the certified ratings for 3.3l (used in Camry, Solara and ES) is 210 hp on regular and 218 hp on premium.
When you compare the hp at the wheels you have to have in mind that the auto tranny power loss is between 5-10% bigger than the manual tranny and Mazda 6 and Altima are avaliable with manuals.

YEah it makes sense to me (about the auto vs manual tranny). What about the big power difference between regular and premium fuel ? How you can explain that or where did you get those numbers ?[/quote]

[angelo]

the certified ratings for 3.3l (used in Camry, Solara and ES) is 210 hp on regular and 218 hp on premium.
When you compare the hp at the wheels you have to have in mind that the auto tranny power loss is between 5-10% bigger than the manual tranny and Mazda 6 and Altima are avaliable with manuals.

YEah it makes sense to me (about the auto vs manual tranny). What about the big power difference between regular and premium fuel ? How you can explain that or where did you get those numbers ?

[/quote]

the numbers for 3.3l are certified ratings for Camry on regular and ES on premium.

[swindler]

Don't worry prodigy, I will never talk of CP-E in a bad way...I'm pretty sure that next week when I will install it (I do the electric connections stuff tomorrow) I will love it...but the thing is that I'm sure that the 3.3L don't push 225 hp/240 torque maybe just before installing the CP-e MAFci

Hey Sebas007, did you get your MAFci shipped? I ordered mine a couple of weeks ago, and Josh told me they're still holding up on the '06 shipments to make sure the MAFci works well with that year. It's the same story posted elsewhere here that a guy up in Canada had problems after he installed it. Probably the user, but CP-e is trying to be sure.

If you got yours, then I should be getting mine soon. But I haven't heard from them this week.

Yeah blame Canada !! hehe...the guy is a pure Texan american. He used butt dyno and did some 0-60 to concluded that he wasn't happy with it...maybe he did not connect right the CP-e module I don't know. For your info I will test on dyno next saturday April 8th.

My bad. I now remember that he said was there was a guy that had problems, and there was ANOTHER guy in Canada that was testing the MAFci on an '06 and they were waiting for word from THAT guy until they shipped anymore MAFci's for the '06. They thought the first guy didn't know his stuff, and wanted to see it work on another '06 before they shipped more.

Obviously, the guy from Canada is you. Please make sure Josh knows (if you haven't done so already) that everything is cool. I think my order is essentially waiting on you.

[Sebas007]

Don't worry prodigy, I will never talk of CP-E in a bad way...I'm pretty sure that next week when I will install it (I do the electric connections stuff tomorrow) I will love it...but the thing is that I'm sure that the 3.3L don't push 225 hp/240 torque maybe just before installing the CP-e MAFci

Hey Sebas007, did you get your MAFci shipped? I ordered mine a couple of weeks ago, and Josh told me they're still holding up on the '06 shipments to make sure the MAFci works well with that year. It's the same story posted elsewhere here that a guy up in Canada had problems after he installed it. Probably the user, but CP-e is trying to be sure.

If you got yours, then I should be getting mine soon. But I haven't heard from them this week.

Yeah blame Canada !! hehe...the guy is a pure Texan american. He used butt dyno and did some 0-60 to concluded that he wasn't happy with it...maybe he did not connect right the CP-e module I don't know. For your info I will test on dyno next saturday April 8th.

My bad. I now remember that he said was there was a guy that had problems, and there was ANOTHER guy in Canada that was testing the MAFci on an '06 and they were waiting for word from THAT guy until they shipped anymore MAFci's for the '06. They thought the first guy didn't know his stuff, and wanted to see it work on another '06 before they shipped more.

Obviously, the guy from Canada is you. Please make sure Josh knows (if you haven't done so already) that everything is cool. I think my order is essentially waiting on you.

Don't worry about it...Josh knows everything, I update him once a week...the end of your wait is pretty near now...in 1 week it will be tested...I definitively need more power !! At least CP-e is there !

[kingkakyle]

i dunno about the sle but the camry/solara with SE are supposed to have a more powerful engine....meaning 2-3 HP more

[Down2TheC]

Before the story goes haywire, it was a dude in Texas and he used a cheapo accelerometer in uncontrolled conditions. Probably went uphill on the cp-e runs. And he returned the cp-e because the thing said he didn't gain 10. "That dude" up in Canada is the one that will be getting dyno runs for stock and MAFci for CP-e on an '06. Then they'll sell to '06 owners freely. Personally, I doubt he ever installed it. Can't see anyone running that pipe and wanting to go back.


P.S. My ragtop weight has nothing to do with dyno results. Only 0-60 times. I think we just have a "luxury trans" that is eating up some horses.