Toyota addresses 'hesitation' concerns with new software

[redsle]

It maybe different software for the Toyota's verus the Lexus, but I would expect the bug that is causing the problem, is exactly the same in both of the software. And I would expect Toyota will release both, because the fact is their are more customers having the problems with Toyota's then Lexus's, since thier are more Toyota's on the road then Lexus's. Just my opinion, I could be worng.

[Jackass-Jeff]

It maybe different software for the Toyota's verus the Lexus, but I would expect the bug that is causing the problem, is exactly the same in both of the software. And I would expect Toyota will release both, because the fact is their are more customers having the problems with Toyota's then Lexus's, since thier are more Toyota's on the road then Lexus's. Just my opinion, I could be worng.

You pay about 30K for a fully loaded Solara... you pay around 40K for a fully loaded ES (44+ for RX)

Would Toyota tend to their luxury guests that expect more from a brand (retain brand loyalty) or the mass population (Toyota) which has the mass population...

Since the software is different, as I previously stated, the reprogramming is different. Would you rather have Toyota release some new quick fix software that sort of helps then release the full one? I bet you would... realistically, it won't happen. If that were to happen, the dealer would be paid twice for the same job... and the problems per 100 vehicles count goes up and the dependability goes down based on a small problem.

The only car they have done "step" upgrades on is the LS 430... the transmission program has been updated 2 or 3 times.

Right now, Lexus is #4 (Acura, Honda, Toyota, Lexus) in least problems per 100 vehicles due to the amounts of voluntary recalls in the past year and "dumb warranty" stuff (windshields... tires... guy that spills coffee on seat...) and keeps the peak at guest satisfaction.

Do what another member said... put the car in "manual" mode and leave in on 5... that way you can use all 5 gears and the "hesitation" is gone.

[redsle]

We have both a Lexus (RX330), my wife's car and my Solara, and my way of thinking is really doesn't matter the price of the car to the business, but were most of the money is made. Toyota sells a hell of alot more cars then Lexus, and Toyota is were most of the company's revenue comes from, the company will always go were the money is. I spoke to both dealerships today, Lexus they have the fix and can do it at anytime, Toyota, will have the fix in a week to 2 weeks. So the fix is here for all cars having the problem. And being a programmer for the last 20 years, I still believe the bug is the same in the "core code" of the software between both cars, not what the specfic parameters are entered in the software for the different cars.

[Down2TheC]

And being a programmer for the last 20 years, I still believe the bug is the same in the "core code" of the software between both cars, not what the specfic parameters are entered in the software for the different cars.

I concur... and I'm also a software geek.

Do what another member said... put the car in "manual" mode and leave in on 5... that way you can use all 5 gears and the "hesitation" is gone.

That reduces it for me but it's far from gone in that mode. And it sometimes won't let go of a gear.

I'll stand by for the fix. It's just a long slow pipeline when you rollout software that the government (EPA) is involved with. (My software dances with the FDA)

[technole]

And being a programmer for the last 20 years, I still believe the bug is the same in the "core code" of the software between both cars, not what the specfic parameters are entered in the software for the different cars.

I concur... and I'm also a software geek.

Do what another member said... put the car in "manual" mode and leave in on 5... that way you can use all 5 gears and the "hesitation" is gone.

That reduces it for me but it's far from gone in that mode. And it sometimes won't let go of a gear.

I'll stand by for the fix. It's just a long slow pipeline when you rollout software that the government (EPA) is involved with. (My software dances with the FDA)

I'm a software geek as well. It just sounds like the same bug across the platform, but it has to be agressively tested on each model.

If I had to stop in the merge to the freeway I'd just go to S and downshift a gear.

[Down2TheC]

I'm sure it's just part of the corporate deployment plan.
- give it to Lexus, see if anyone screams.
- give it to Toyota, stand by for feedback
- roll out to manufacturing

I just wish they wouldn't tease us by putting out a press release before the TSB.

[toyotaguy]

Here is the Phone number For the NHTSA. Call them and tell them what kind of problem your having (in regards to the Hesitation).With the more of us calling there is a better chance that they will do an investigation.
for NHTSA Contact Info
1-888-327-4236

[Jackass-Jeff]

Here is the Phone number For the NHTSA. Call them and tell them what kind of problem your having (in regards to the Hesitation).With the more of us calling there is a better chance that they will do an investigation.
for NHTSA Contact Info
1-888-327-4236

The fix is being implemented and you want the gov't involved... you better change your screen name. You don't seem to like Toyota very much.

[qhoc0010]

So did anyone have dealer fix this problem for a Solara?

[Jackass-Jeff]

So did anyone have dealer fix this problem for a Solara?

pending release

[dvdchris45]

My cousin called his Lexus dealership (I think its in woodland hills for you socalers and they said they got the fix finally. He owns a 2004 ES330 and is taking his car in next week. It feels like Toyota owners are a 2nd priority because we dont got the bling like lexus does.

You think they'll take in my solara?

[Down2TheC]

Put some Lexus badging on it... maybe they won't notice.

[qhoc0010]

So when the fix for Solara comes out?