No TRD Supercharger for the 3.3 V6!!!!

[VirtualSlayer]

Well, they should make a SC for this car, i mean whuts da point making all those TRD parts w/out makin a SC? Gone that far and left out the main TRD part.

[cydog3]

Weedo: my guess is your guy may just be misinformed . I hope my dealers TRD rep isn't the one full of it . I tend to belive the rep more then just some customer service guy..I agree it would make no sense for them not to make one

[Weedo]

I wonder what the price and power will be? My buddy has an '04 4-Runner with the 4.7 V8 and TRD Supercharger. He said it really hauls. He keeps racing people and shocking the *&%^ out of them! TRD shows gains of around 120hp, but then if you look at the other superchargers on the site, they're either extremely weak (Matrix) or they don't publish the real numbers.

Well, I'm sure we'll see soon enough...

[VirtualSlayer]

i'm not 100% shur, but i'm thinkin the sc gonna cost around $2-4k ??? according 2 what my friend told me. And due to the engine being a bit of a high compression, its not likely for us to get tremendous amt of boost. This cars engines not like a supra. We would need 2 upgrade the pulleys for more power.

[Jackass-Jeff]

like I said my dealer also called while I was sitting there and was told end of summer it will be available

So who at TRD is lying? My guess is that it's the guy I talked to as I can't imagine they WON'T make a supercharger for this engine.

The compression is ridiculously high so a S/C would be able to run 2 lbs at best

[Jackass-Jeff]

i'm not 100% shur, but i'm thinkin the sc gonna cost around $2-4k ??? according 2 what my friend told me. And due to the engine being a bit of a high compression, its not likely for us to get tremendous amt of boost. This cars engines not like a supra. We would need 2 upgrade the pulleys for more power.

Upgrading pulleys would make your boost higher than the intended, but your compression is very bad. I believe you have ALUMINUM pistons, which are easily bent by too much boost in a high comp. engine. You would have to get forged internals at a lowered compression to get the S/C.

The 3MZ pretty bad gains(IMO) for increasing .3 L and raising the compression... Maybe it's time for the MZ series to retire and a new design to come out? =]

[Weedo]

i'm not 100% shur, but i'm thinkin the sc gonna cost around $2-4k ??? according 2 what my friend told me. And due to the engine being a bit of a high compression, its not likely for us to get tremendous amt of boost. This cars engines not like a supra. We would need 2 upgrade the pulleys for more power.

Upgrading pulleys would make your boost higher than the intended, but your compression is very bad. I believe you have ALUMINUM pistons, which are easily bent by too much boost in a high comp. engine. You would have to get forged internals at a lowered compression to get the S/C.

The 3MZ pretty bad gains(IMO) for increasing .3 L and raising the compression... Maybe it's time for the MZ series to retire and a new design to come out? =]

The gains from the 3.0 to the 3.3 are much greater than what you might think. The gains in 0-60 went from 8.7 to 6.6. That's a HUGE gain in power. Then again, the 5-speed auto is a night and day change from the old doggy 4 speed auto. The shift points are now perfect, and the gearing is more like a 4.56 in a Mustang in the first two gears.

My guess is there is no way they'll come out with a Supercharger if it isn't pushing 4-5psi of boost. And that would still be incredibly safe or Toyota wouldn't risk it.

My Lightnings (I had 2 of them) were set at around 7psi stock. With a pulley swap I was pushing an extra 6lbs of boost, some guys had gone to an extra 8lbs. When the Lightning first came out, there were tons of discussions about the motor being able to only hold an extra 2lbs of boost until the internals wouldn't handle it anymore. The "tough" guys went to 4lbs of boost and most people thought they were crazy. Then 6, then 8, and then people started finally breaking pistons (the weak link). But if it's tuned properly, with a proper chip, and your air/fuel is correct, there usually isn't a problem. In the case of Toyota, the "chip" actually learns what's going on. One of the best computers out there.

[Jackass-Jeff]

Wow, I didn't compare the 0-60 numbers, just raw power numbers. Not too shabby (gj 5 speed auto)

I know the Toyota ECU learns (I think requires a reset after a major mod so it reads it) how to control everything, but the compression still is the issue. What's the compression on the lightning?

[Weedo]

Wow, I didn't compare the 0-60 numbers, just raw power numbers. Not too shabby (gj 5 speed auto)

I know the Toyota ECU learns (I think requires a reset after a major mod so it reads it) how to control everything, but the compression still is the issue. What's the compression on the lightning?

Not sure about the Lightning compression. Since it's supercharged right from the factory, I'm sure it's less than the 3.3. I would assume comparing the two: 14# in the Lightning is about the limit with stock internals. I would think a figure of around 10# in a higher compression motor would still be fine with good gas and plugs. Knowing Toyota's impeccable quality and quality control, I would hope the internals are stronger than most motors of the same displacement and power.

I don't mind being the testbed for higher boost!!! Bring on the blower!!!

[Jackass-Jeff]

They do put quality parts that are good enough for normal use. S/C it under "normal" conditions may be fine, but everyone wants more boost.

The aluminum pistons are for weight reduction purposes so they had to give up some "solidness" for weight reduction.

The parts manager at my dealer drives a Gen 2. I'll talk to him =] Maybe he knows what's going on since he has most of the trd parts (from what I can tell) on his Solara

[Weedo]

Ok, so now I've tried for the 3rd time...

I spoke with 3 people at TRD, every one of them has said there is currently no plans and nothing in the works to build a supercharger for the 3.3.

I don't know who else to ask but go right to the source, which I did. I just don't understand how the people at TRD would know nothing about it yet others do?.?.? Say it isn't so!!!!!

[cydog3]

hmm intresting . this is weird well I am going to call my dealer tomorrow and ask him if I get their TRD reps name and number . If I am able to get I will post on the board.

Ok heres my breakdown
email from trd -No ETA yet (not that its not going to be available)
TRD rep my dealer called -says end of summer