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Factory amp 99 SLE V6??

Factory amp 99 SLE V6??

Postby offthahook » Sat Jan 03, 2004 5:38 pm

I have the JBL system (I think). The speakers say JBL, but the head unit does NOT. SO I bought a 6 CD changer from a yard (Factory, 01 Camry JBL unit). I'm wondering where the factory amp WOULD BE in my car. I was thinking the trunk, but it isn't on the shelf. I'm thinking I may have to get an amp and the harness for my newer head unit. Really, all I'll need are the two ends of the harness and I can solder wires if need be for length. Silly me for thinking I had an amp that would work and I could just swap head units! Help a brotha out. :lol:
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Postby JoeB » Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:00 pm

Hard to know without knowing what kind of car you you have but if it is the same as my 99 Solara, it is under the glove compartment beside the ECU. -JoeB
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Postby geminimouse » Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:16 pm

It's the silver thing behind the glove compartment.
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Postby offthahook » Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:35 pm

Good lookin out fellas. Now it looks like Toyota changed the wire harness in 2000! screw, I may have to fabricate a wire harness to match the back of my 2001 head unit. Anyone have the wiring colors and codes for a 99 Solara v6 SLE single CD changer (double DIN height) and a 2001 Camry (Matshushita man.) in dash 6 CD changer "86120-08130" (double DIN)? If I do this swap, I'll hook up a how to for us "old schoolers" with the 99's...
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Postby Luc » Sat Jan 03, 2004 10:27 pm

Good luck in finding the the matching harness, as that isn't readily available. You should try and get the harness bundle for the indash 6-disc changer 3-in-1 unit from the yard. Unless you have the wiring specifications for both type of the preamp harnesses, it won't be easy to match them up. FYI, there is only one signal ground for the actual 4 signal preamp wires, which are all shielded together.
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Postby geminimouse » Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:53 pm

I don't think ur lookin at the right harnesses. There's another set of harnesses. It should be right behind the head unit, look around for it.

If that's true, then i don't think ur stock amp would be in use anymore after putting the 6disc changer.
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Postby Luc » Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:17 pm

There are TWO different type of preamp plugs from Toyota. Here is the old (still current) type:
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Here is the back of the radio:
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On the back of this actual indash 6-disc 3-in-1 is the newer plug (off right):
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The plugs are different for a regular 3-in-1 with a single CD (and older DIN-sized radios) and indash 6-disc. Most are going towards the newer types now. So in case you have actually seen it, don't assume it's the same. What the original poster indicated is corret.
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Postby offthahook » Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:33 pm

Luc wrote:There are TWO different type of preamp plugs from Toyota. Here is the old (still current) type:
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Here is the back of the radio:
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On the back of this actual indash 6-disc 3-in-1 is the newer plug (off right):
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The plugs are different for a regular 3-in-1 with a single CD (and older DIN-sized radios) and indash 6-disc. Most are going towards the newer types now. So in case you have actually seen it, don't assume it's the same. What the original poster indicated is corret.


Crap. My new (01 Camry) in dash 6 disc changer is EXACTLY like the last picture. I'm guessing my current stereo has the older plugs. This is gonna be fun...
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Postby Mudd » Tue Jan 06, 2004 5:21 pm

The standard Toyota 2 plug harness is still there, it's just not the one plugged into the factory deck. The standard harness is plugged into the factory amp. Unplug the two plugs from the factory amp, and plug them into your other deck.

If you're putting an aftermarket deck into the car, you can get a Toyota amp integration harness from any Best Buy, but your deck has to have 2 sets of RCA pre-outs, or you won't have the ablilty to fade with the harness. Or you can just unplug the two plugs from the amp, and get a Toyota harness from a stereo shop that plugs in. The amp integration harness uses the factory amp to power the speakers, the standard harness relies on your deck to power the speakers. I'd use the factory amp, it almost always sounds better.
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Postby offthahook » Tue Jan 06, 2004 5:52 pm

Until I actually get this done, lemme see if I understand all this...

The in dash 6 CD changer has a different harness than the in dash single CD player. I am going to use the factory amp, even if I have to get a used one from an 01 Camry. The amp currently in my car may or may not be compatible with the in dash 6 CD changer that I plan to install. If I have to get a used amp from a 01 Camry, I will get the connectors from the amp to the head unit. Then, I can solder some wires so I can connect the head unit to the amp. I believe I have the standard connector for the speakers/power/ground that run from the head unit out to the speakers...
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Postby Luc » Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:30 pm

Mudd wrote:Unplug the two plugs from the factory amp, and plug them into your other deck.


Wrong! How do you connect two plugs from the factory amp to his new OEM headunit with a single preamp plug?

If he were replacing with an aftermarket headunit, then your method is correct, but he's not, he's using an OEM indash 6-disc 3-in-1.

Mudd wrote:The amp integration harness uses the factory amp to power the speaker...


Yes, and it creates a lovely turn-on pop that can tear your eardrums out too. But it is curable.
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Postby Luc » Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:40 pm

offthahook wrote:Then, I can solder some wires so I can connect the head unit to the amp.


The problem with that is you don't know the pin configuration for the newer plug, and it is NOT indicated on the circuit board either. If all the wire colors are the same, then it's easy, otherwise, you run the risk of damaging the new unit.
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Postby offthahook » Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:42 am

Luc wrote:
offthahook wrote:Then, I can solder some wires so I can connect the head unit to the amp.


The problem with that is you don't know the pin configuration for the newer plug, and it is NOT indicated on the circuit board either. If all the wire colors are the same, then it's easy, otherwise, you run the risk of damaging the new unit.


Yeah that sux, but if I can get the schematic for both, then we can work it out. I could try to get some harnesses off a wrecked car and that would be so titties right thurr. That would involve some cutting no doubt. So, will I have to cut my factory harness that plugs into the back of my head unit??? That scares me fa sho. I'm just wondering if I can use MY amp and its connectors. Obviously, the way it is now, the amp wires or the head unit wires have to be cut. Why Toyota why???? I just assumed the harness was the same because the 99 and 00 are exactly the same elsewhere...
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Postby Luc » Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:16 pm

AFAIK, all the indash 6-disc 3-in-1 all use the newer preamp plug. If you can still get the actual harness that goes to it, that would be the best bet. You'll have to somehow since you still need the female plug even if you are adapting it to your current OEM amp.
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Postby Mudd » Thu Jan 08, 2004 7:50 am

Read it again, cupcake. There are only 2 styles of Toyota stereos in the past 10-13 years. One of them uses the standard 2 plug Toyota harness everyone's used to seeing, the others use a factory amp with a single plug in (from the amp).

What I said was, IF the stereo you're installing has 2 plugs in it, where you only see one coming from the amp (as in the pictures), you GET THE PLUGS FROM THE AMP. When you trace down the factory amp, there will be an input and an output. The input you unplug (it's that standard 2 plug harness) and plug into your deck. Meaning you bypass the amp.

If your deck doesn't have 2 pre-outs, you have two options. Either get a deck with two preouts so you can fade, or use RCA Y-adaptors and get rid of the fading alltogether.

And I've been installing a solid 10 years now. I have yet to hear a turn-on thump in a Toyota (Ford, yes, Toyota, no). Avalon, Tundra, Camry, Solara, etc. No thumps. I use the Metra harnesses though.

Luc wrote:
Mudd wrote:Unplug the two plugs from the factory amp, and plug them into your other deck.


Wrong! How do you connect two plugs from the factory amp to his new OEM headunit with a single preamp plug?

If he were replacing with an aftermarket headunit, then your method is correct, but he's not, he's using an OEM indash 6-disc 3-in-1.

Mudd wrote:The amp integration harness uses the factory amp to power the speaker...


Yes, and it creates a lovely turn-on pop that can tear your eardrums out too. But it is curable.
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