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Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby trd4life » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:09 pm

This guy is one of those people that will tell you over and over he wants to buy something, has you hold it for them, promises to pay for a product on a certain day, then blows you off and doesnt pay. This guy isn't serious about anything please people do not do business with this dude. I held onto my last big brake kit for this guy because he kept telling me" i'll pay for it this day" then never pays. one of those routines. Really hurts small business owners like me who make custom parts. Then says sorry i am not buying it anymore had to get my header fixed. WTF. This is a perfect example right here of why the solara performance market is on its way out and no vendors want to make parts for us. Unbelievable.
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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby stringbean » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:14 am

Sorry to hear that Gabe! Totally understand where your coming from! And idk why anyone would want to hurt your business! You do so much for us! Please keep doing what you do best, and forget about people like this because they are everywhere in the world, and sadly we just gotta put up with it! Thanks for the heads up though!
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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby yaddadaimsayin » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:55 am

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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby CamryOnBronze » Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:32 pm

trd4life wrote:This guy is one of those people that will tell you over and over he wants to buy something, has you hold it for them, promises to pay for a product on a certain day, then blows you off and doesnt pay.


Sounds like 95% of the Camry community to me. :lol:

Bummer.
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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby mdatrdcam » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:06 pm

Totally hear you dude, I hate shady sellers as much, probably as you hate shady buyers, like this guy. I'm still bitter about having to spend $120 in extras for supposed "brand new" products that according to the rep of the company, the products should have come with in the first place. But that's life, i guess. Just gotta move on.
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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby parkc96 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:25 pm

CamryOnBronze wrote:
trd4life wrote:This guy is one of those people that will tell you over and over he wants to buy something, has you hold it for them, promises to pay for a product on a certain day, then blows you off and doesnt pay.


Sounds like 95% of the Camry community to me. :lol:

Bummer.


hey now dont be hatin... and gabe sorry if ive been like that so far asking about stuff and not buying but im trying to get an idea for the future and i keep getting shot down by the parents haha.
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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby 1gSE » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:16 pm

parkc96 wrote:
CamryOnBronze wrote:
trd4life wrote:This guy is one of those people that will tell you over and over he wants to buy something, has you hold it for them, promises to pay for a product on a certain day, then blows you off and doesnt pay.


Sounds like 95% of the Camry community to me. :lol:

Bummer.


hey now dont be hatin... and gabe sorry if ive been like that so far asking about stuff and not buying but im trying to get an idea for the future and i keep getting shot down by the parents haha.


He's not hatin, it's the truth. It's been going on for years here. People always wanting parts but not putting up the cash for it. You gotta pay to play.

Gabe, it sucks when you have to call someone out on something like this, especially since you've done so much for this community whether it be parts or advice. I can understand your frustration, hopefully things work out
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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby DSM_Lara » Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:03 am

How much was it being sold for???
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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby crispone » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:58 am

Hey guys, I just wanted to weigh in with a thought:

I am very sympathetic to the frustration by OP in this thread. I also understand the "counter point" that is coming up in the dialogue. I'd like to pose a scenario for reflection and see what you guys think...

I believe there is a subtle but SUBSTANTIAL difference in whether someone is expressing DESIRE to purchase something, or communicating INTENT. Simply mouthing off DESIRE in a vague fashion puts one in the 95% of people category, and is difficult to be TOO critical of... however, when one communicates INTENT to a seller and then backs out, it IS more substantial and brings into question integrity as well as compromises the good faith effort of a seller, ESPECIALLY if there is EXPLICIT COMMUNICATION such as "please hold that for me" or "I'm getting the money together, and INTEND to buy it from you". Very different from "I WANT to buy one of those, but don't know that I can pull it off".

Also, life is dynamic. It is true that there are cases where one DOES INTEND to make a purchase, and some change in circumstances that is "unavoidable" precipitates inability to follow through on the intent. The onus is on the INTENDING BUYER to "make good" with the seller through communication. This doesn't necessarily "fix it" for the seller, and becomes a judgment call relative whether or not it's an indiscretion that warrants "retaliation".

Lastly, there is the category of those who COMMIT to make a purchase and then back out. Sometimes this COMMITMENT is not clearly distinguishable from INTENT. Once again, it's all about the communication and courtesy with which actual intention and ability are being relayed.


Anyway... I try to be VERY CLEAR when I communicate. If I SAY I AM "IN" on a purchase, I believe I SHOULD be pulling the "Paypal" trigger in short order and making right with the seller. If I communicate "desire" but do not yet INTEND on making a purchase YET or a COMMITMENT yet, then it's MY RESPONSIBILITY to communicate this clearly to a seller.

At the end of the day, it's all about integrity and reputation. What is YOUR integrity and reputation worth? To me, this is a VERY VALUABLE COMMODITY that is not a RIGHT but a privilege. I want to protect that fiercely, and have even MADE GOOD on a purchase because of my STRONG communication of INTENT or COMMITMENT even when it turned out financial situation "changed" or my needs and preference changed, just to make GOOD on my word. This is not always common in our cyber-world, and to the expense of all of us.

I encourage CLEAR, CONCISE communication above all else. Coupled with a valuation of your integrity as an individual, I suspect less situations like this thread describes, and better outcome for both buyers and sellers in general.


Not sure if that "adds" anything to this discussion, but it sort of "quantifies" my empathy and overall view on the matter...


PS: We can ALL just count on the following, too... "Money talks... Bullsh!t walks!" (Or suffers ridicule in a thread like this! 8) )


Carry on...



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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby KingKevin » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:53 pm

^^Crisp I agree with you 100%
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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby yaddadaimsayin » Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:03 pm

Immitagably verbose, dude.
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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby parkc96 » Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:11 pm

im kinda getting a vibe of crisp being the "old wise man" on this forum haha he always has awesome stuff like that!
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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby DSM_Lara » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:17 pm

yaddadaimsayin wrote:Immitagably verbose, dude.

Lol I saw that as his title.
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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby crispone » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:39 pm

DSM_Lara wrote:
yaddadaimsayin wrote:Immitagably verbose, dude.

Lol I saw that as his title.



It's actually misspelled... "immitigably" is correct. (Not in my control... but I figure most people don't notice, anyway. 8) )



I'm not so wise, guys... but I might be OLD! I also try to find the "win/win" logic in all situations. Comes from Sun Tsu's "The Art of War" fundamentals. Good guidance to live by. :wink:




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Re: Heads up people do not do business with "TheMack"

Postby 02slera » Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:43 pm

i hate to say it...
dont hold parts for anyone, first one with the cash should get it, do no favors.
problem avoided.
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