The Gap (no, not the store)

by **RON** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:00 pm

It looks like the caliper bracket is making contact with the heads of the bolts here. That's why it isn't *flush*. I had the same problem. I ground the bracket down instead of the nuts heads. I don't understand how your hub could be bent, since the STOCK set up was working fine. :-?

by **LEE337** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:25 pm

RON wrote:
LEE337 wrote:Well, its confirmed.
Gabe and I talked and its a bent wheel hub.

First Craig, then Jake and now me.
All this sh!t is happening right before the Texas Meet.

Anyone feel like donating a wheel hub to me???

But why was everything *OK* before you took it apart? How the hell can you bend the hub doing this?

This is the mind boggleing part. I have know idea why or how the hub was bent.

The bolts are not holding me up at all. I have the passenger side done and complete. It took only about 45 min too. The trouble started when I got over to the driver side.

In the pic with no rotor, the brake bracket is flush with the BBK bracket. Its off about 1/4 in. Dont know why dont know how but its bent.

What if I grind on the BBK bracket to make it fit???
Would I be adding to the problem of the hub being bent???

by **akora12** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:18 pm

Just because the passenger side fit doesn't meant the other caliper bracket wouldn't need grinded. As we've found out with these kits, every car has a different issue (or not). Since the allen bolts are to be used to mount the supra brackets to the hub, why don't you try swapping your bolts and see how that goes.

by **RON** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:27 pm

"
What if I grind on the BBK bracket to make it fit???
Would I be adding to the problem of the hub being bent???"

Don't grind BBK Adaptor itself! Try grinding down the caliper bracket where it mounts on the adaptor...so it will sit straight and flat. If you F**k that up, you can always get another caliper bracket cheap. If you mess with BBK ADAPTOR...you won't be able to use it should you get a new hub.

by **trdkamuri51o** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:35 pm

RON wrote:"
What if I grind on the BBK bracket to make it fit???
Would I be adding to the problem of the hub being bent???"

Don't grind BBK Adaptor itself! Try grinding down the caliper bracket where it mounts on the adaptor...so it will sit straight and flat. If you F**k that up, you can always get another caliper bracket cheap. If you mess with BBK ADAPTOR...you won't be able to use it should you get a new hub.

modify your stock brakets.. im guessing your a 00 5sfe or something along those lines...

what you need is a griding wheel and to take off a rounded section where the bolts are.. you see your bolts.. the ones DIRECTLy below the stock braket that mount the trd4life kit??? its right on those causing it to flex..

you WILL NEED TO GRIND THE FACTORY BRACKET your[b] red thing if your inept[/b], to get those bolts to line up and the braket to line up.. soemone already said it.. if you choose not to do it then dont..

i know i HAD TO DO IT TO BOTH SIDES on my camry and it works just fine..

i know gabe knows his stuff but i know for a fact that it isint bent, its just your bolts hitting it.. :roll:

by **LEE337** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:40 pm

akora12 wrote:Just because the passenger side fit doesn't meant the other caliper bracket wouldn't need grinded. As we've found out with these kits, every car has a different issue (or not). Since the allen bolts are to be used to mount the supra brackets to the hub, why don't you try swapping your bolts and see how that goes.

grinding the caliper bracket would do me no good. Since the hub mounting points are a 1/4 in further away from the rotor. I would need to grind the BBK bracket where it mounts to the hub to make the BBK bracket closer to the rotor.

Ive already tried every possible bolt/allen combination, all turned out 1/4 in gap.

RON wrote:"
What if I grind on the BBK bracket to make it fit???
Would I be adding to the problem of the hub being bent???"

Don't grind BBK Adaptor itself! Try grinding down the caliper bracket where it mounts on the adaptor...so it will sit straight and flat. If you F**k that up, you can always get another caliper bracket cheap. If you mess with BBK ADAPTOR...you won't be able to use it should you get a new hub.

Like I said before the problem isnt the brake bracket, its the hub mounting points. Grinding the brake bracket would only add to the gap. I need the hub mounting points closer to the rotor.

I really appreciate yall taking your time to help me figure this out.

by **akora12** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:46 pm

What rotors are you using?

Don't grind the supra brackets, that isn't necessary. If your hub is really bent, than that problem needs taken care of before anything. With that said, I don't know if we can conclusively say the caliper brackets need to come out another 1/4" until everything sits flush.

by **LEE337** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:52 pm

akora12 wrote:What rotors are you using?

Don't grind the supra brackets, that isn't necessary. If your hub is really bent, than that problem needs taken care of before anything. With that said, I don't know if we can conclusively say the caliper brackets need to come out another 1/4" until everything sits flush.

YES!!!

Thats what Im saying. Without anything on, no BBK bracket or anything on. The mounting points on the hub are 1/4 in further away than the passenger side. Why is that, I have no clue as to why???

The passenger side is perfect, and I used the allen bolts to mount the brake bracket to the BBK bracket.

My whole problem is that the mounting points are off, which is gona throw off everything else.

What would be the best way to repair the mounting points on the hub???
Buy a new hub???

by **LEE337** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:53 pm

Oh and Im useing the Supra TT rotors.
The real ones that I bought from Gabe.

by **RON** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:54 pm

grinding the caliper bracket would do me no good. Since the hub mounting points are a 1/4 in further away from the rotor.

Not sure what you mean....are you saying that you can't re mount your stock rotor properly back into the hub? The Supras and Stocks have identical measurments for mounting (114.Xmm disttance). You had the stock on in the first place...right? What could have happened in between?
I really don't think it's your hub..have someone look at before you decide to replace it.

by **LEE337** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:59 pm

^ Good point.

Here is why I think it is the way it is:

When I replaced the pads, whenever that was, I never had to take off the bracket. I just removed the caliper, replaced the pads, put the caliper back on and bled the system.

Im thinking the hub was messed up to begin with. No wrecks showed up on carfax but that just means it wasnt claimed on insuance if something did happen. Which I now think something did happen.

So, when I went to take off the entire assembly. However the last person had it hooked up to make it work, I took apart.

Does that make sense???

by **RON** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:10 pm

It would have taken a tremendous hit to bend the hub. The entire suspension, including control arm, would have been *nuked*. Possible, but like I said...they had the whole assembly (caliper and bracket) mounted properly. You can't *bend these* in place to make 'em work! Either they fit or they don't. Take it to a mechanic and have them verify that the hub it tweaked.

by **LEE337** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:18 pm

Yeah, thats what pisses me off. The fact that this coulda happened to my Lara and I had no clue when I purchased her.

I have back to back 16hr shifts coming up tonight and tomorrow so Im about to go do that.

Sometime sunday Im gona take everything back off, both sides, and do a bunch of measuring. Ill take some pics of both side completley disasembled to show where the prob may be. Of course Im pretty sure I already know the outcome........new hub. :cry:

Thank you all for helping me through this. Ill keep yall informed.

Anyone feel like donating a driver side hub let me know.
Or where I could get a cheap one.

by **akora12** » Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:33 am

^There are several junkyard sellers on ebay selling knuckles at a decent price. I would spend a few extra bucks and get a new wheel bearing pressed in since you never know what the condition of the used one will be.

Unfortunately, you're also going to need an alignment as well.

by **LEE337** » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:57 am

Yep, this otta be fun.

Thursday Ill be getting the hub, the knuckle, new wheel bearings pressed, and new CV axle. Did I leave anything out???

From what Gabe tells me this will be easier then the passengers side. The passengers side has a dual axle with more parts and its way more complicated.

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