The Gap (no, not the store)

by **LEE337** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:02 pm

OK, here is my delima.

Im installing the Eric Sol BBK, and Ive ran into this problem. On the driver side the brake bracket doesnt mount flush with the BBK bracket. Its not the BBK bracket its my wheel hub. I dont understand why???

Heres the kicker...

When I tried to put back on the old rotor with no BBK bracket, it doesnt line up either. This makes absolutley no sense what-so-ever!!!
What the hell is goin on??? Gabe, Greg, Adam...anybody???

by **akora12** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:53 pm

I ran into a similar problem, but it was an easy fix for me. The casting of the hub leaves a ridge on the two "arms" that the BBK brackets mount flush with. If you file or grind that ridge down, it should sit flat with the hub.

by **LEE337** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:16 pm

Thanks
I did that.
Thats how I got the gap down to a 1/4 in.

Yeah, a 1/4 in !!!

I think the problem is the hub.
It looks just like the passengers side, so IDK.

Any other ideas???
Would the CV axle have any effect on it???

My Lara has been on jack stands for a week now... :cry:

by **RON** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:55 pm

Not sure what's going on...here's a pic I found from ABOVE with correct alignment. Your pic isn't clear, but if you use the WRONG bolt there..it will be too long. My set got one ROUND counter sunk hex head bolt and one regular head bolt for each side. You must use the round bolt to mount the caliper bracket and the hex head to mount the BBK adapter. If you do it the other way around, the HEX head bolt will be too long to mount the caliper bracket. This is an old pic and doesn't have the round head.

by **akora12** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:10 am

Can you toss up a few more pics? If your stock caliper bracket still bolts up correctly, I can't imagine the hub is off.

Just another random thought, but have you tried putting the nuts on the back of the hex-head bolts and torquing them down with equal pressure? The holes in the supra brackets are drilled to exact specs, so it might just need a bit of pulling as the bolts work themselves into the holes.

*Edit: My last comment is off. After seeing the additonal pics, the problem is with the bolts attaching the stock caliper bracket to the supra brackets.

by **RON** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:25 pm

Don't have any more pics..the bolts should easily mount the BBK adaptor. If you can't go back and mount the stock rotor and caliper ( with stock bolts), then something is off for sure. You must have thrown something out of wack.?

by **LEE337** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:44 pm

Ive already completed the passenger side. Its the drivers side thats givin me hell. Here are some more pics...

Another shot of the gap. If I tighten it anymore it pulls on the rotor.

A shot of it without the rotor. Does it look crooked to you???

Here is a pic of the old pad. Look at the right side. It seems that Ive been getting uneven pad wear.

Another shot of the same pad. This is the only pad that looks like this. It came from the outter driver side OEM brake bracket.

Ive gone through every possiblility of what could be the problem. Like I said before the passenger side mounted up with no problem at all. Also when I try to put everything back to OEM, it doesnt go back on correct. I have the same problem that Im having with the BBK kit. It doesnt want to line back up correctly. How could the OEM brake bracket mounting points be off. That piece is solid steel.

by **akora12** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:02 pm

I see what your problem is. You need to use the allen-head bolts where you currently have the hex head bolts. Your stock caliper bracket is most likely hitting those bolts. Gabe included the allen-head bolts for this exact reason. The older kits came with hex-head bolts that had to be cut down.

by **LEE337** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:27 pm

This is how Gabe told me to install it. This is also how I have it installed on the passengers side. The problem is not the bracket or the bolts, or how the bolts are installed, its the OEM mounting points. They seem to be a 1/4 in off.

It boggles my mind. :crazyeyes:

*edit* The rotor isnt hitting the bolts. The rotor is rubbing on the Brake Bracket. There is no way to completly tighten the allen-bolts without the brake bracket rubbing the rotor.

by **akora12** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:17 pm

I don't see how the stock caliper bracket could be off if your brakes mounted up correctly prior to installing the kit. I've spoke with Gabe on the phone about his kit, and I guarantee you the allen head bolts are to be used to mount the supra bracket to the hub.

I'm a bit miffed on this one. Maybe the holes in the supra bracket are off, but I don't know how that would happen since mine were drilled correctly.

by **trd4life** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:59 pm

i am stumped

Luckily Frank is doing a video write up of this install for us in a few days

by **LEE337** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:13 pm

Well, its confirmed.
Gabe and I talked and its a bent wheel hub. :evil:

First Craig, then Jake and now me. :cry:

All this sh!t is happening right before the Texas Meet.

Anyone feel like donating a wheel hub to me??? :cry:

by **trd4life** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:35 pm

I think it looks bent in the picture dont you guys?

by **RON** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:50 pm

LEE337 wrote:*edit* The rotor isnt hitting the bolts. The rotor is rubbing on the Brake Bracket. There is no way to completly tighten the allen-bolts without the brake bracket rubbing the rotor.

I had to GRIND down my caliper brackets because they were comming in contact with the rotor...same with the area near the bolt heads (didn't grind the bolt head down for a good reason). You need to see where they are making contact with the rotor and just gind 'em down 1/16" or so in that area.

by **RON** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:52 pm

LEE337 wrote:Well, its confirmed.
Gabe and I talked and its a bent wheel hub.

First Craig, then Jake and now me.
All this sh!t is happening right before the Texas Meet.

Anyone feel like donating a wheel hub to me???

But why was everything *OK* before you took it apart? How the hell can you bend the hub doing this?

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