Possible new brake upgrade
I have been in contact with www.racingbrake.com I sent them a new reman ES300 dual piston caliper with bracket. They do not use move out brackets to run the bigger Supra rotor. They cast a new caliper bracket so the larger Supra rotor fits. They did a kit for the IS300 guys using Supra rotors. Here are some links with pictures and the benefits of their caliper bracket.
http://forums.racingbrake.com/showthread.php?t=263
http://my.is/forums/f174/racing-brake-o ... ng-367122/
http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/oe_ca ... ke_kit.asp
Sourcing your own dual piston calipers the price for the brackets are $175 to $200 need a minimum of 30 sets.
The caliper bracket kit with Supra rotors is upgraded from OE straight vane to curved vanes. The curved vanes pump more air and keep the disc cooler than straight vanes. However the curved vane discs are “directional” meaning left and right discs are different and requires two sets of tooling instead of just one set in the case of straight vanes.
Estimate for caliper brackets and curved vane Supra one piece (w/o caliper) will be around $450-500, caliper brackets with two piece Supra rotor kit $700-750 (w/o caliper) two piece rotors have an aluminum hat and are lighter.
There might be a different option, making brackets for the stock single piston calipers using the Supra rotor. My contact likes this idea better as you don't have to spend more money on calipers. here is some of his ideas from emails.
"The Camry rotor is 255mm x28 while the Supra non turbo is 296x32, Supra turbo is 323x30. I think for the non turbo Supra rotor you can get away with a 16” wheel, but for the Supra turbo rotors you will need 17” wheels. This is also something you should consider so you don’t end up spending an additional $1000 for larger wheels (and tire). We see a lot of enthusiasts go through the same exercise just to try and make the kit fit. They end up with more money spent than they expected and still can’t accomplish what they want. That’s what we can help with a solution at low cost with guarantee performance improvement."
"If you are asking my opinion, I would say a single piston (your Camry) can be just as effective as dual piston (older Camry), or 4 piston (Supra turbo), or I should say even if there is a difference of performance, the improvement can't justify the cost, time and trouble in acquiring (upgrading) the calipers."
"If you will track the car what you really need is a bigger and light weight efficient cooling rotors like the Supra two piece. We have numerous applications to prove that, one of them is Acura NSX which we offered OE caliper (single piston) BBK with our center mount design with two piece rotors. Our customers can out brake some of the higher end cars equipped with original Brembo calipers costing thousands of dollars."
I have nothing to gain from this I just sent them the caliper to get their opinion and some options. I can send them a stock front single piston caliper. I just don't know if we can pull together 30 orders and what is preferred. Single piston or dual piston brackets?
http://forums.racingbrake.com/showthread.php?t=263
http://my.is/forums/f174/racing-brake-o ... ng-367122/
http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/oe_ca ... ke_kit.asp
Sourcing your own dual piston calipers the price for the brackets are $175 to $200 need a minimum of 30 sets.
The caliper bracket kit with Supra rotors is upgraded from OE straight vane to curved vanes. The curved vanes pump more air and keep the disc cooler than straight vanes. However the curved vane discs are “directional” meaning left and right discs are different and requires two sets of tooling instead of just one set in the case of straight vanes.
Estimate for caliper brackets and curved vane Supra one piece (w/o caliper) will be around $450-500, caliper brackets with two piece Supra rotor kit $700-750 (w/o caliper) two piece rotors have an aluminum hat and are lighter.
There might be a different option, making brackets for the stock single piston calipers using the Supra rotor. My contact likes this idea better as you don't have to spend more money on calipers. here is some of his ideas from emails.
"The Camry rotor is 255mm x28 while the Supra non turbo is 296x32, Supra turbo is 323x30. I think for the non turbo Supra rotor you can get away with a 16” wheel, but for the Supra turbo rotors you will need 17” wheels. This is also something you should consider so you don’t end up spending an additional $1000 for larger wheels (and tire). We see a lot of enthusiasts go through the same exercise just to try and make the kit fit. They end up with more money spent than they expected and still can’t accomplish what they want. That’s what we can help with a solution at low cost with guarantee performance improvement."
"If you are asking my opinion, I would say a single piston (your Camry) can be just as effective as dual piston (older Camry), or 4 piston (Supra turbo), or I should say even if there is a difference of performance, the improvement can't justify the cost, time and trouble in acquiring (upgrading) the calipers."
"If you will track the car what you really need is a bigger and light weight efficient cooling rotors like the Supra two piece. We have numerous applications to prove that, one of them is Acura NSX which we offered OE caliper (single piston) BBK with our center mount design with two piece rotors. Our customers can out brake some of the higher end cars equipped with original Brembo calipers costing thousands of dollars."
I have nothing to gain from this I just sent them the caliper to get their opinion and some options. I can send them a stock front single piston caliper. I just don't know if we can pull together 30 orders and what is preferred. Single piston or dual piston brackets?
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