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Can a failed water pump damage engine?

Can a failed water pump damage engine?

Postby nmatthis » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:23 am

Obviously, yes, a failed water pump could damage the engine if you somehow forced the car to keep going and let it overheat maybe. I ask because my wife's aunt said the water pump went out on her Gen 4 Camry while driving and it did $2000 in damage. I have 160,000 miles on my 99 Solara and I'm considering replacing the water pump when I have the serpentine belt changed to pre-empt a failure. Is that worth it?
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Postby lilm » Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:36 am

yes yes yes yes its right there please do them at the same time
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Re: Can a failed water pump damage engine?

Postby 1gSE » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:50 am

nmatthis wrote:Obviously, yes, a failed water pump could damage the engine if you somehow forced the car to keep going and let it overheat maybe. I ask because my wife's aunt said the water pump went out on her Gen 4 Camry while driving and it did $2000 in damage. I have 160,000 miles on my 99 Solara and I'm considering replacing the water pump when I have the serpentine belt changed to pre-empt a failure. Is that worth it?


definitely. My water pump went out on my old cavalier....i ended up doing about $1600 worth in damages
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Postby Dawgz » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:08 am

U might as well get the timing belt, tensioner and the pulleys changed, as well as the crank seal, and cam seals while ur doing this.
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Postby Chinky420 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:04 pm

well, if your water pump fails, and you're on the highway, you could probably keep the engine cool enough by air cooling, at least while you're moving.


now, if you stopped, on the other hand, you'd want to turn off the engine.


but i had a cousin drive from phoenix, arizona to la, cali, and had his water pump go out right as he got out of arizona. but, just so long as he was moving, his engine heat stayed managable (obviously he was cruising and not trying to rev it up), and he was able to make it to LA where he could replace the water pump


but of course it was in fall, and not during summer, which made heat management easier.

and my motto, in response to the second part of the question: do as much maintenance (preventative or otherwise) as possible, while you're in the area working on stuff.
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Postby Gangis » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:16 pm

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS get the water pump changed at the same time as your timing belts, among other things. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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Postby Jakecallun20 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:03 pm

Yeah, if that fails your screwed. Change it. The water pump is what pumps coolant through the passage ways in the motor block, so without that....coolant isn't flowing, and if your in the city it will cause your engine to overheat and your motor block will eventually crack. Trust me, its worth the money to go ahead and change it, and as Dawgz said earlier... Do the seals, timing belt, and check your pulleys since it will be open. At 160k its best. If your water pump has never been changed chances are neither has your belt, so its a good idea to spend the money. Crank and Cam seals, if there gonna fail soon it happens around 150-180k. I changed all of mine at 145k and spent 983 dollars. Car is now good for another 100k with preventative maintenance now.

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Postby conor42 » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:44 pm

You're not screwed if it fails. You're screwed if you're stupid enough to keep driving it after it starts to overheat.

It just so happens that most people are stupid enough to drive their cars without ever glancing down at their instrument cluster.
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Postby nmatthis » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:55 pm

Crap, I had the timing belt replaced just a few months ago and the dealership never suggested replacing the water pump too. Was $983 the crank and cam seals and the water pump, or only the seals? I have replaced my serpentine belt at least once. Are there any other things that are adventageous to replace along with the water pump? I did replace most of my pulley and the dynamic tensioner at 100k. Let's get a list going here:

water pump
crank seal
cam seal
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Jakecallun20 wrote:Yeah, if that fails your screwed. Change it. The water pump is what pumps coolant through the passage ways in the motor block, so without that....coolant isn't flowing, and if your in the city it will cause your engine to overheat and your motor block will eventually crack. Trust me, its worth the money to go ahead and change it, and as Dawgz said earlier... Do the seals, timing belt, and check your pulleys since it will be open. At 160k its best. If your water pump has never been changed chances are neither has your belt, so its a good idea to spend the money. Crank and Cam seals, if there gonna fail soon it happens around 150-180k. I changed all of mine at 145k and spent 983 dollars. Car is now good for another 100k with preventative maintenance now.

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Postby DatSRBoi » Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:07 am

Last owner of my supra drove almost 2300 miles with no coolant on a turbo 7m block. The day I brought it the car still drove home without me knowing it was empty til I came to a 100% complete stop to find out it started over heating. Motor ran strong with only a blown head gasket.

Toyota woot woot.


Not saying to drive like that but just telling you what I saw happen with me.
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Postby nmatthis » Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:22 pm

In a worst case scenario, what damage could be done that would cost $1600?
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Postby DatSRBoi » Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:48 pm

nmatthis wrote:In a worst case scenario, what damage could be done that would cost $1600?


no oil, bent valve, ring failure, timing belt snapping, etc etc.
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Postby Solarafreek » Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:00 am

DatSRBoi wrote:Last owner of my supra drove almost 2300 miles with no coolant on a turbo 7m block. The day I brought it the car still drove home without me knowing it was empty til I came to a 100% complete stop to find out it started over heating. Motor ran strong with only a blown head gasket.

Toyota woot woot.


Not saying to drive like that but just telling you what I saw happen with me.



:lol: what a surprise..a 7M w/ a blown head gasket
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Postby Sol-Toy » Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:11 am

Dawgz wrote:U might as well get the timing belt, tensioner and the pulleys changed, as well as the crank seal, and cam seals while ur doing this.
yup, do it all. Its not that much more work since its all right there. If you have it done, they shouldn't charge much more for all of this.

Wouldn't this be the second time you're doing this? I had it done at 98k miles (I waited waaaay too long).
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Postby Jakecallun20 » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:02 pm

Sol-Toy wrote:
Dawgz wrote:U might as well get the timing belt, tensioner and the pulleys changed, as well as the crank seal, and cam seals while ur doing this.
yup, do it all. Its not that much more work since its all right there. If you have it done, they shouldn't charge much more for all of this.

Wouldn't this be the second time you're doing this? I had it done at 98k miles (I waited waaaay too long).


You waited way too long at 98k? Ha. I didn't have any of this done till 145k.
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