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Resistor value for EGR CEL

Postby CamryOnBronze » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:49 am

Sentinel wrote:2: I'm sure one reason "the Law" hates modders is that they feel that they are exempt from emissions standards.


OT but I hardly doubt that is why cops hate modified cars. They grew up with muscle cars in most cases and I really dont see most cops being tree huggers. Anyone is basically exempt from emissions in my state, there is no testing or anything- you can do whatever you want.
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Postby Dawgz » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:14 am

i thought NJ did testing via the exhaust (a probe)


but all they do is hook up to ur obdII port and see if ur car is emissions ready and wat not.
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Postby hskrsolara » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:36 am

Vik, I have block off plates if you want them. They are aluminum and thick, I paid good money to have them made, but will not be using them anymore. Let me know.
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Postby Eye8Pussies » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:55 pm

Sebas007 wrote:
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engine ping...that's what a good fuel system + fuel management is for....

egr for a stock car = fine

egr for a car looking for power = waste of time


King, everytime your post are so summarized, why don't you elaborate more with some logical explanations ??



fair enough....but this one should be more common sense than anything, no? hot air into the intake = less power. Then, take into account the fact that the rotors in the superchargers create a lot of heat when pushing the air through, and the efficiency of the supercharger is then even worse than it already is.

from the wiki post that you made in the past, all the theories make sense, but they don't go hand in hand with anybody who is trying to make power from their car. YES, having a good egr can allow better mileage by lowering combustion temps since there is less oxygen (and timing is advanced), but that also results in less power (for more power, adding enough fuel will allow timing advancement). Perfectly fine for a stock car, but for people who are slapping on FI and looking for power....that's for that person to judge for themselves.




Sentinel wrote:1: robbing power? I'm sure the system does not recirculate at full throttle.

2: I'm sure one reason "the Law" hates modders is that they feel that they are exempt from emissions standards.

3: if you're gonna have a resistor hanging and banging around your engine bay, at least put some electrical tape on it so it won't ever short out.



1. Yes, the egr definitely robs power. Unfortunately, your assumption is wrong. There are two ports at the TB for the egr- port E and port R. At low throttle, only Port E gets vacuum, and the EGR valve is closed. But once throttle is increased and the butterfly is either between the E and R, or both is open, then, the EGR is then open and circulating the exhaust gases into your intake. When both port E and R are open, there is even more exhaust gases entering your intake than at less throttle and the butterfly is between the two ports.

2. Nobody is exempt from emissions. Some people just find ways to deal with it one way or another. Also, it's not guaranteed that one would fail emissions without an egr. Just, chances are a lot higher.

3. This is the one statement that I agree with here. But then again, I've bitched at Adam before about not covering it up with electrical tape, though it technically makes no difference and unless it hits a live wire with decent voltage, it won't short out. Even water makes no difference.



I hope that clears up some things about not running an egr ;)
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Postby Dawgz » Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:02 pm

king's post ftw
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Postby SolaraPete » Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:15 pm

Thanks for everyone's help so far, but:

I tried the 10k resistor - no luck (ASG14)
Then tried 12k - no luck (CamryonBronze)
I even read the resistance of the sensor itself (160k i think) and tried that - still no luck :bleep:
All of these resistors kept the light off at first, but as soon as i shut the car off & re-started, it came back on.

Has anyone else done the "resistor mod" and gotten it to work? Or does anyone have any other ideas on this?
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Postby Eye8Pussies » Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:19 pm

what wattage of resistor are you using? are you sue that you used a 1/2 watt resistor?

more clear instructions:
http://www.envipcotech.com/randy/supra/egr/egr.htm
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Postby ASG14 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:24 pm

Everyone I know that has done it on the Gen 3 has had success. Me, Eye8Pussies, 2WickedToyz. I thought the Gen 4 should be the same.
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Postby akora12 » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:23 am

Just to confirm this for anyone searching in the future...

The 1/2 watt, 10K resistor worked perfectly on my solara. Thanks Adam!
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Postby ASG14 » Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:41 pm

^ :D Glad it worked!

Just an fyi, your CEL will stay off, but chances are the car will not be "emmisions ready" according to the scanner for it.
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Postby akora12 » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:31 pm

^^^Good info.

No emissions laws here in IN, so I'm good to go.
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Postby Camry Racing » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:48 pm

Can someone tell me where exactly to put this resistor or I just tap it to the EGR sensor near the TB?
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Postby ASG14 » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:00 pm

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Postby SolaraPete » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:25 pm

OK, i've tried everything and no matter what i do the same p1410 code keeps on coming up. I even went back to Radioshack and bought another pack of the 10k 1/2 watt resistors and after i clear the code the CEL comes back on the 2nd time i start the car.... Is this the same code you guys were getting? Or do i have some other problem going on here?
I'm no stranger to electronics or resistors, but this is pissing me off more than the vacuum hose diagrams for the s/c install! :bad-words:

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Postby akora12 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:24 pm

Do you mean P0401? That was the code I was getting.

To my dissapointment, my CEL came back even with the 10K ohm 1/2 watt resistor. What's weird is how long it kept it at bay. In any event, I think the 12K would work for me since my scanner showed that the internal egr temp was at 177 degrees when the CEL was thrown.

My problem is that none of the radioshacks around here carry a resistor in the range of 11-16K ohms.
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