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front license plate

Postby MCOjerry » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:30 pm

No one has answered my question. What the hell do you need a front tag for anyway? They serve no real purpose, except to raise you tag fees to pay for the 2nd tag.

Why don't you guys write to someone in your states, citing the man states the don't have front tags, and ask them to get rid of them.

It's nice that FL doesn't require them.
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Postby Gangis » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:51 pm

I wish I knew, Jerry.

I do know that there's a movement in California to get rid of the front plates, but I don't know if they're even making any headway.
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Postby crispone » Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:04 pm

UNITED STATES — POPULATION: 301,139,947 (July 2007 est.)


REGISTERED VEHICLES IN USA (2004 est.): 243,023,485

(137,633,467 - 2001 WOW!!! NEARLY DOUBLED IN 3 YEARS!!!)


VEHICLES PER CAPITA: 1.2391392831849152356612777567567


TOTAL LICENSE PLATES: 243,023,485

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APROXIMATELY 70% OF VEHICLES IN US REQUIRE 2 PLATES


TOTAL LICENSE PLATES: 243,023,485 X 0.7 = 170,116,440


NUMBER OF VEHICLES SUBJECT TO 2 PLATES = 170,116,440


IF 170,116,440 COULD BE REDUCED BY HALF... 85,058,220 PLATES COULD BE ELIMINATED...


AT $0.64 PER PLATE COST... THAT'S $54,437,260.80 OF SAVINGS...


JUST FOR THE COST OF MANUFACTURE!!!


AT AN AVERAGE COST PER PAIR OF $30.00, WITH A SAVINGS OF HALF WHEN PURCHASED, YOU'D BE TALKING $15.00 PER PLATE, OR: $1,275,873,300 OF COST SAVINGS TO THE CONSUMER!!!! (THAT'S RIGHT, WE'RE TALKING OVER A BILLION AND QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o )


Today the majority of plates are made using a process similar to the example provided by this Rhode Island facility.

The life of a license plate begins with a roll of aluminum. The aluminum is run through a clear-dip tank, or water bath. The bath warms the metal up and clears the surface of any impurities. It is important that the water remain clean. The aluminum is then covered almost entirely, with up to 1/8″ edge on the sides, with a surface of adhesive reflective sheeting. Sheeting is primarily manufactured by 3M and Avery, with 3M being the dominant manufacturer. The sheeting can have any pattern or background image on it, generally the state name, motto, and whatever graphic the state chooses.
The plates then go through the rim die, which cuts the plates to shape and punches the holes that are used to attach license plates to cars. These holes range in width depending on the preference of the state or organization ordering the plates.
The new blanks are placed in stacks by the press.
The plates are slid into and pressed down using what is called a hinge die.
The press operator takes 2 blanks at a time. The press is made by HP, out of Cincinnati.
Letters are selected from a series of key-type letterforms called dies, and are entered into the machine. Plates are pressed by a second press operator.
Numbers are verified and checked to see if the die is upside down.
The plates are then roller coated with a reflective paint on to the letters/numbers. Recently a new dry coat process has been developed that uses fewer chemicals in its formula.



...anyway...


I never use my EXTRA plate, anyway. Damn dealership RAN OUT and SCREWED IT ON to the BUMPER the day I bought the car... before I even realized what just happened!


I carry the BENT front plate in my TRUNK, and if I DO get stopped... I just "show" them how the BOLT HOLE is "WARPED" :wink: from a recent AUTO-CAR-WASH incident... and how I had the dealership parts department getting me a FRAME! (That's my story... and I'm STICKING TO IT!)

PS: No plate on my TOY 4x4 P/U, SUPRA, nor prior couple of supras... etc...


Just a few thoughts...


...to PISS you OFF even MORE! 8)


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Postby bbsolara06 » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:34 pm

do what i did for my cavalier...good old zip ties, doesnt scratch the paint and its still physicall on the car, but doesnt damage your car. when i got my car from work the idots screwed the plate right into the bumper and about 10 minutes after i got home i took it off and its been in my window since but i too got pulled over for it about 2 weeks ago and its been off for over a year.
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Postby Astro » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:28 am

Yeah, the front plate sucks, I hate the way it looks. How's this.....when I had to go to the courthouse to get my no front plate cleared, the sheriff actually pulled on the plate to make sure it was bolted on! That sucked, after almost 8 years I finally got pulled over twice in one month. :x
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Postby crispone » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:40 am

bbsolara06 wrote:do what i did for my cavalier...good old zip ties, doesnt scratch the paint and its still physicall on the car, but doesnt damage your car. when i got my car from work the idots screwed the plate right into the bumper and about 10 minutes after i got home i took it off and its been in my window since but i too got pulled over for it about 2 weeks ago and its been off for over a year.


The issue with ZIP-TIES is that the nylon (other polymers, as well) will often "fatigue" over time with sun/rain etc... and the "tight" crease or bend that affixes them. They can "fail" (break) and you can lose your plate.

Also, and more importantly, unless you REALLY secure them well, and in ALL FOUR corners, you can end up with a "flutter" between your plate and vehicle, sometimes bumper surface, etc... and either make NOISE or cause WEAR or BOTH.


Just some additional thoughts on TIES.


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Postby trdkamuri51o » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:54 am

depending how bad u dont wanna drill buy an L bracket. they sell for like 2 bucks each and you need two.. then drill UNDER in the hidden area in the lower grill (aka the spot that cant be seeen even with the plate off

couple of nuts to have the plate on, and your set..

its like a 6 dollar project, and about 15 mins of your time. this way you can remove the plate right after and have the ability to remount it. wihout having UGLY HOLES SHOW UP IN THE FRONT

talk about no one being any real hlep here but milton!!!!


- jerry though most of the time you see the rear of a car in a police chase, the front one helps identify stolen cars a lot quicker than turning around then following. if that doesnt make sense remember, the more identifying marks on a car, the easier to spot when a criminal is inside. kinda like front tint you cant see the driver!!!
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Postby Sebas007 » Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:24 am

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Chris you can add Quebec in purple :P but you won't have enough space...Quebec is 2.5 time bigger then Texas
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Postby crispone » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:20 pm

Sebas007 wrote:Image

Chris you can add Quebec in purple :P but you won't have enough space...Quebec is 2.5 time bigger then Texas


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How's that?


heh heh heh...



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Postby Sebas007 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:59 am

Chris...you have no skills !!! :P hahaha :fadein:
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