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Redline for you V6 guys

Redline for you V6 guys

Postby onefiend » Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:49 pm

Gen1 owner here. Sorry if this has been discussed already, tried to search but found nothing.

What is the redline for you guys who own the Gen2 V6 SE Sport?
Gettin a new car in a few months and the SE Sport V6 and Maxima are on the top of my list. I've driven the Maxima and it is fast, the 3.5L redlines at 6,500 and seems to have a nice steady range of power all through the rpm band. I just wanted to compare redlines of the Gen2's 3.3L vs. the Maxima's 3.5L.
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Postby Gorcman » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:16 pm

5800 RPM i believe. yea, its a really low redline =(
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Postby onefiend » Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:26 pm

that is kinda low... imagine the potential of the 3.3L if redline was raised to atleast 6,200.
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Postby silversurfer220 » Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:00 pm

Just FYI, and this is a little off topic, but the newer maximas are having a lot of electrical problems. (I work for Enterprise Rent A Car and the majority of ours have been in for multiple electrical issues on several occasions.) Otherwise, they are sweet cars.
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Postby MikeATL » Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:22 am

onefiend wrote:that is kinda low... imagine the potential of the 3.3L if redline was raised to atleast 6,200.


Yeah, I believe the gas mileage at 6200 would be around .05 miles per gallon.

Stick to honduhs if you want high redlines.
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Postby Russian Mafia » Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:55 am

I dont think the decision should be based on redline, but rather on when torque kicks in, and horse power. HP increases as your rpm do. That's why Honda S2000 can be quick with 4cyl engine and no turbo, the same applies to new sports cars (m5, rs4) they have over 8000rpm redline that allows them to have 400-500hp without turbo.

So if the new solara had a red line at 6200, other things being equal, it would have close to 260-280hp. However, famous toyota realibility would not be there anymore.

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Postby FLUXEMAG » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:22 pm

Formula 1 cars shift at 21000 RPM in some cars with a V10, and they weigh about 1350 pounds wet with a driver sitting in it. :D Now that's performance.
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Postby onefiend » Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:35 pm

MikeATL wrote:
onefiend wrote:that is kinda low... imagine the potential of the 3.3L if redline was raised to atleast 6,200.


Yeah, I believe the gas mileage at 6200 would be around .05 miles per gallon.

Stick to honduhs if you want high redlines.


Gen1 Solara's V6 and 4bangers redline at 6,200...lol
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Postby onefiend » Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:37 pm

silversurfer220 wrote:Just FYI, and this is a little off topic, but the newer maximas are having a lot of electrical problems. (I work for Enterprise Rent A Car and the majority of ours have been in for multiple electrical issues on several occasions.) Otherwise, they are sweet cars.


How long have you been with the company? Are you a Level I or II?
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Postby onefiend » Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:51 pm

Russian Mafia wrote:I dont think the decision should be based on redline, but rather on when torque kicks in, and horse power. HP increases as your rpm do. That's why Honda S2000 can be quick with 4cyl engine and no turbo, the same applies to new sports cars (m5, rs4) they have over 8000rpm redline that allows them to have 400-500hp without turbo.

So if the new solara had a red line at 6200, other things being equal, it would have close to 260-280hp. However, famous toyota realibility would not be there anymore.

Correct me if i'm wrong


I agree partially...The reason why I prefer a V6 with a wide rpm band is because it holds it's peak power longer before actually having the tranny shift. Honda 4bangers manage to make HP by increasing the rpm band and making peak HP at high rev's (over 6,800) while sacrificing torque down low.
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Postby MikeATL » Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:25 am

just a word of advise. Solaras aren't sports cars, don't fool yourself.
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Postby stockae92 » Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:42 pm

horsepower = (rpm x torque) / 5252

so more hp with higher rpm only when the tq at that particular rpm is still good to make hp

also, if you have an engine with long-er stroke, then your piston speed will be VERY high when trying to achieve higher rpm during the combustion cycle

i don't think Honda 4 bangers sacrified low end tq to achieve top end hp. if you look at some dyno's of Honda 4 bangers, they are making decent low end for a 4 banger. just that honda makes their 4 bang high rev-ing so it makes hp on the top end as well.

if you compare engines with the same hp, then honda's offerings does lack low end tq. (compare tq of I4 vs V6 is fair?) but if you compare tq by number of cyl, honda's 4 banger is just about right with the displacement. (or not whole a lot lower)

when op-ing for a 4 cyl over a 6 cyl, honda also saved weight and adds [some] mpg [when you drive in the low rpm rang]
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Postby onefiend » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:01 pm

MikeATL wrote:just a word of advise. Solaras aren't sports cars, don't fool yourself.


Really? I didnt know that...hehe

on a side note: wouldnt it be great if the Solara was a Sports Car.
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Postby SunnySolara » Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:08 am

Another option for you is the new 2007 Camry SE. It's getting a 3.5L engine and should be a screamer. The Avalon was faster than the Maxima with this engine and it's heavier than a Camry. I believe it comes out in March.
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Postby onefiend » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:37 pm

SunnySolara wrote:Another option for you is the new 2007 Camry SE. It's getting a 3.5L engine and should be a screamer. The Avalon was faster than the Maxima with this engine and it's heavier than a Camry. I believe it comes out in March.


Yeah, I thought about the new 07 Camry...but for some reason I am partial to the looks of the Solara (SE Sport V6)... the Camry might have to still grow on me. I do love the fact that Toyota made the Camry greater than or equal to a Nissan Maxima as far as perfomance. They should have done that 7 years ago

Is the 07 Camry really coming out this March? Thats really early in the year.
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