Turbo solara?

[Mandarinsolara]

straight
im guilty of it myself

[Somedude]

if you are willing to spend lots of money then I say go for it. I don't see Turbo Solara in car mags often, it will be a unique ride.

All I see in car tuner mags these days are 240sx, supra, skyline, 350z, civic, integra, rsx,wrx, and the evo. That is bs, It is so boring.

[1st Gen Sol]

If I had the funds, I would invest in getting one built.

[Turbosolara]

I am about to demod my car. i will have all of my component for sale as soon as january. The turbo kit would fit 5sfe 5 speed straight, with minmum modifcation. for 2AZ motor, i think you would need to get a custom exhaust maniford and downpipe, also reprogram the e-manage. you are possiblely able to reuse to intercooler pipe, intercooler, injectors, T3 turbo, fuel pump....etc.

I alerady own the solara for 5 years and now its time for me to move onto other cars and fund my 240sx project.

[xavier]

camryman, i was saying i dont believe those numbers are accurate from what xavier had sourced out

read the whole thread next time

Oh than I am the one mistaken. I thought mandarin was agreeing with me...not telling me to stfu. Anyhow, here are some dynos
http://www.dezod.com/pd_dezod_motorsports_stage.cfm
Look on that website...they dont allow linking. There you will see the 2az make 244 whp/255wtq @ 8.5 psi with a slipping clutch. The slipping clutch will cause a small loss oin horse power so Dezod thinks around 265 fwhp with a trip puck.

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/stor ... 50f11ea53d
Here is ZPI's stage 1. they claim 300 whp at 9-10 psi.

Now, does anyone think that the 2az-fe from the scion tC is different from the 2az-fe in the solara/camry? They are the same. The fuel/air maps might be slightly different requiring a slighlty custom tune but the engine can handle the same boost.

And for the people that say it will cost an arm and a leg...the Dezod kit is around 4 grand and the ZPI stage 1 is around 5 grand.

Now, I forgive the previous un-educated posts. I will be accepting apologies from 3pm-5pm today and tomorrow.

[Turbosolara]

as far as i understand, the TC has different fuel map and shorter gearing transmission in the manual. (yes that means it is more surprior than solara and camry with 2az)

also, TRD supercharger produce 200hp on the flywheel (40hp gain) with 7 psi. now this this reliable power, that you can drive it to pick up your mom without any worry that your car might blow motor in the half way.

i still have no clue how do you make 8.5psi and have have 244whp yet reliable. xavier i feel that unless you installed one kit or know someone has it as daily drive, you should not speak so conclusively about the crazy power gain.

[Somedude]

even if the TC TRD s/c could fit the 2AZ Solara, the car only has 200 horsepower, that is still not enough to smoke a lot of cars out there.

[xavier]

as far as i understand, the TC has different fuel map and shorter gearing transmission in the manual. (yes that means it is more surprior than solara and camry with 2az)

also, TRD supercharger produce 200hp on the flywheel (40hp gain) with 7 psi. now this this reliable power, that you can drive it to pick up your mom without any worry that your car might blow motor in the half way.

i still have no clue how do you make 8.5psi and have have 244whp yet reliable. xavier i feel that unless you installed one kit or know someone has it as daily drive, you should not speak so conclusively about the crazy power gain.

The gearing is only slightly different and I think its in the camry/solaras favor with a lower final drive ratio.....lower rpm speed for highway cruising. The difference in the fuel/air maps are irrelavent with a custom tune.

Next, the tC supercharger was actually under rated. Most dynos show around 188-190 to the wheels which translates into about 220-230 ish to the wheels so I think maybe you should do some research. You are right in the fact that I can't speak conclusively on a product until I have a testimonial. I dont understand why the power output is so hard to believe. Go on Scionlife.com and check out the gains. One guy dyno'ed 211 whp from the superchager @ 9 psi (ZPI pulley). Scionspeed was running almost 500 ponies on stock internals. Yes it did go pop but that was after many hard track runs @ 18psi to get 11.1 in the quarter. Im not saying that the motor is bullet proof but Im saying that the only weak spot known until 15 psi is the piston. Easy fix. Arias forged 8.5:1 pistons for around 500


Here is the supercharger dyno with 9 lb pulley completely stock otherwise

[xavier]

Heres a video of a dyno of a tC making 290 fwhp and 331 fwtq @ 10.5 PSI!!!
http://www.supload.com/vid_confirm.php? ... _Movie.wmv

[Turbosolara]

ok i searched and i found the 2azfe has 140 on the wheel stock. so 7psi with safely tuned and have 200 whp is a reasonable figure. boost up to 9psi and lay down to 211hp is another reasonable figure.

and lower rpm = slower reaction to boosting = worst perofmrance and better mpg. you think this is a favoring for people who want blower?

290whp with 10.5psi......... it just seens unreasonable with me. my guess is 240-250 whp max.

btw, do you know the difference between whp and hp??????? do you know both of them can read out from the dyno chart?

when you reading a dynochart, it is very important to know

1. fuel octane used
2. temperature
3. eleveration
4. all the modifcation
5. what happen to the car after dyno
6. is that whp or crank hp

[Turbosolara]

I found the TC with exhaust and supercharger lay down 200 whp and 186 torque with 7.5psi. so the factory setup with SC should lay down 195 whp.

http://www.clubsciontc.com/modules.php? ... c&start=15

[i20solara02i]

just wait till UPFD release their verison of the turbocharger for the 2az-fe.

[Turbosolara]

just wait till UPFD release their verison of the turbocharger for the 2az-fe.

thanks that's actually what i tried to say.

[xavier]

ok i searched and i found the 2azfe has 140 on the wheel stock. so 7psi with safely tuned and have 200 whp is a reasonable figure. boost up to 9psi and lay down to 211hp is another reasonable figure.

and lower rpm = slower reaction to boosting = worst perofmrance and better mpg. you think this is a favoring for people who want blower?

290whp with 10.5psi......... it just seens unreasonable with me. my guess is 240-250 whp max.

btw, do you know the difference between whp and hp??????? do you know both of them can read out from the dyno chart?

when you reading a dynochart, it is very important to know

1. fuel octane used
2. temperature
3. eleveration
4. all the modifcation
5. what happen to the car after dyno
6. is that whp or crank hp

Thank you. I agree the 290 at 10.5 psi is a tad bit fishy to me but who am I to dispute it. Its quite possible that he made that amount on a cold day with c16 or whatever. All I was trying to point out that if the supercharger can put out 211 whp @ 9 psi then the turbo could put out more at that same psi...say 230-250ish. Its reasonable that it can make 265 at 8.5 psi with a unichip and really good tuning. Its all in the tuning. I also want to point out that I didnt say it DID make 265 @ 8.5 psi...I said THEY (Dezod motorsports) were guessing that their previous run @ 245is with a slipping clutch would actually make around 265 with a non stock clutch.

[xavier]

just wait till UPFD release their verison of the turbocharger for the 2az-fe.

I am waiting very patiently I think their number will just further prove my point....the 2az makes some pretty good power under boost