dealer refused lag tsb

[slingshot]

I meant can you easily spin the tires when pressing the accelerator hard starting from 0 miles per hour in D?

[Down2TheC]

Comparing notes w/ others it seems to be a fair test of the reflash to roll at 40, put the peddle to the floor and let it up. If nothing happened in that time, you have the lag. If it started to downshift and surge, then it's been done. I don't have the flash yet... so I can attest to the "Nothing" part for pre-flash.

[cklinh]

I meant can you easily spin the tires when pressing the accelerator hard starting from 0 miles per hour in D?

Nope.

[Dirtywater]

Hey guys. I'm near North Hollywood and my '04 Solara has the lag. What exactly should I do to get it fixed. If I go into the NoHo dealer, will they already be aware of the TSB or will I need to find it and print it up first.

Thanks if anyone can help.

DW

[PhreakdOut]

Hey guys. I'm near North Hollywood and my '04 Solara has the lag. What exactly should I do to get it fixed. If I go into the NoHo dealer, will they already be aware of the TSB or will I need to find it and print it up first.

Thanks if anyone can help.

DW

So long as it's a V-6, you're set to go in. The service manager will hate it if you bring in the bulletin. (Let him think he found the solution.) Sometimes it's good to play dumb.

Just explain that you experience a "lag" or "gear hunting" at low throttle acceleration. Ask them to check for TSBs as you think there might be one out there to fix it.

If they claim they can't find one, then hand it to them. Give them the chance to find the solution to your symptoms.

Jeez! These service managers must have delacate egos.

[Astro]

Hey guys. I'm near North Hollywood and my '04 Solara has the lag. What exactly should I do to get it fixed. If I go into the NoHo dealer, will they already be aware of the TSB or will I need to find it and print it up first.

Thanks if anyone can help.

DW

Go in and ask for Joey Bernardo. He's a cool guy and should be able to help you out. He services June's ride (Junest -'04 Convert) and I used to go there to. I've known him for awhile now and he comes in to my restaurant. But do what PhreakdOut says and tell him your symptoms, because this is the proper way to do it.

TSB Number: TC006-05
Title: Engine Controls - Auto Trans Downshift Lag and or Gear Hunting
[2004-2005 Solara V6s only]
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/Toyota/1119337200000_1120806000000_TC006-05/index.html

[qhoc0010]

Hey guys. I'm near North Hollywood and my '04 Solara has the lag. What exactly should I do to get it fixed. If I go into the NoHo dealer, will they already be aware of the TSB or will I need to find it and print it up first.

Thanks if anyone can help.

DW

Go in and ask for Joey Bernardo. He's a cool guy and should be able to help you out. He services June's ride (Junest -'04 Convert) and I used to go there to. I've known him for awhile now and he comes in to my restaurant. But do what PhreakdOut says and tell him your symptoms, because this is the proper way to do it.

TSB Number: TC006-05
Title: Engine Controls - Auto Trans Downshift Lag and or Gear Hunting
[2004-2005 Solara V6s only]
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/Toyota/1119337200000_1120806000000_TC006-05/index.html

Thanks for the link. That will help a lot.

[Jackass-Jeff]

cklinh, I bet they didn't even do anything to it in hopes of saving 2 hours worth of warranty work. Find a different dealer if possible.

2 hours of warranty is always welcomed because Toyota pays for it. Plus it only takes 20 minutes (including run around) to flash it.

They may have flashed it w/o resetting the ECU itself. Remove the negative battery terminal, wait 5 mins, then remove the EFI fuse. Wait 20 mins, replace the fuse and reconnect the battery. The ECU will be reset and the lag should be gone

[Jackass-Jeff]

took my se sport to the dealer this morning about the lag issue and when i spoke to them they told me they had not gotten anything. i then told them about the tsb that was out and he looked it up on his computer and then told me that it is not intended for the 4cyl engine, only the 6cyl. for some reason i feel as if i am getting jerked around but is this true? i hope not because i do have a noticable lag and really want this issue resolved. any help greatly appreciated.

2004 i-4 has one TSB. Tell them you smell SULFUR when starting the car. They will reprogram the ECU and, possibly, change the cat converter. This TSB was for 02-04 Solara and Camrys (Canada/USA). But if you really don't smell sulfur, don't worry about it.

[qhoc0010]

OK, guys. I got my problem fixed today with a Toyota dealer in Renton WA. I told them the lag problem without saying nothing about the TSB. First, the mechanic who did the test drive with me didn't seem to convince about the lag because he said it's normal. I know I didn't want to deal with that guy. However, he seems to do his job by making suggestion to the manager to look up the TSB. When I knew that, I gave them the print out of TSB TC0006-05 and they surprised. The manager thanked me for the information. I got my Toyota fixed for around 4 hrs b/c they were a little busy. It's better now with no more hesitation. However, I still like the power of an American car LOL.

[MD2606]

My wife has a 2004 SLE V6 since I don't drive it much I wouldn't know about the lag and she may not have thought it was normal. So what years or VINs are affected? I will also hit my dealer up on the TC0006-05 TSB. I do alot of business with them and they treat me right.

[Astro]

My wife has a 2004 SLE V6 since I don't drive it much I wouldn't know about the lag and she may not have thought it was normal. So what years or VINs are affected? I will also hit my dealer up on the TC0006-05 TSB. I do alot of business with them and they treat me right.

June has the same ride and she'll be going in on Thursday. I suggested for her to mention about the lag. She does notice it, so I'm sure they'll take care of it.

BTW...She's going to replace the small back windows, due to rubbing. Check out the rubber between the 2 windows, June's are scratched/worn.

[cklinh]

I meant can you easily spin the tires when pressing the accelerator hard starting from 0 miles per hour in D?

Slingshot... just curious, what's the importance of this? Does it show whether the lag is still there or not?

I was not able to do this before, but I tried today, at three consecutive intersections, and I was able to spin the tires before I went off (old guys in the cars next to me must have thought I wanted to race!)

This is after disconnecting the battery/ECM fuse like Jackass-Jeff said to do... I also reinstated DocJohn's little vacuum hose trick...

I _think_ it has been better since taking Jackass-Jeff's advice, but I don't know if it is just my mind playing tricks on me...

[slingshot]

Yes, it's one way to see if the lag fix worked.

[Dirtywater]

Thanks everyone for your advice.

So I called NoHo today and explained my problem to a Service Rep who claimed he had not heard of anything. OK, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

I am taking it in tomorrow morning and will have the TSB on me. After the test drive with the service guy I'll take it out if they still deny anything. I hope that will have them fix it, if not should I take it to another dealer? Are they obligated to fix TSB's?

Thanks again.