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Postby Buckeyegirl » Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:40 pm

It's not? Someone prove to me that Mobil 1 is not fully synthetic. How could they (Mobil) get away with printing it on their bottles "Fully Synthetic".
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Postby 03RKC » Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:38 am

Any full syn oil is better than dyno oil. I use only Amsoil in my bikes and will be switching my cars over to Mobil 1 or Amsoil next oil change.
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Postby drock » Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:00 pm

I use synthetic blend which is a little less than full synthetic. Does anyone here use a blended oil? Im not sure if i notice a different or not. My last oil change I used valvoline max life. Also, anyone here doing there own oil changes? The oil filter is hell to get off of my car!
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Postby dvdchris45 » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:16 am

hey folks, i was wondering if i put Mobil 1 synthetic what grade/type do I fill? There are so many!
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Postby jsie » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:24 pm

The following link has very good info abt oil:
http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm

Follow the owners manual about the grade, API service, and all other specs.

The main reason to put oil as we all know is to lubricate; but once oil inside the engine lots of chemical reaction happens. If things not as the requirements, it may do good for one thing but bad for another (damaging seals / emmission sensors / etc /etc).
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Postby Jewls » Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:42 am

03RKC wrote:Any full syn oil is better than dyno oil. I use only Amsoil in my bikes and will be switching my cars over to Mobil 1 or Amsoil next oil change.



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Postby FLUXEMAG » Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:22 am

fotodad wrote:
impactX wrote:Mobil1 is not fully synthetic anymore.


Wow! I didn't know that. What brands out there are fully synthetic other than the one you mentioned?


False!

FAQs for Mobil 1
http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/Motor ... aspx#FAQs1


Is Mobil 1 with SuperSyn Technology a fully synthetic motor oil?

What's the difference between a fully synthetic and a synthetic blend motor oil?

What's the overall benefit of Mobil 1 with SuperSyn Technology?




Is Mobil 1 with SuperSyn Technology a fully synthetic motor oil?

Yes, it is. To meet the demanding requirements of today's specifications (and our customers' expectations), Mobil 1 with SuperSyn uses high-performance fluids, including polyalphaolefins (PAOs), along with a proprietary system of additives. Each Mobil 1 with SuperSyn viscosity grade uses a unique combination of synthetic fluids and selected additives in order to tailor the viscosity grade to its specific application.


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What's the difference between a fully synthetic and a synthetic blend motor oil?

All motor oils are made up of base oils and additives. In general, fully synthetic motor oils contain non-conventional, high-performance fluids. Semi-synthetic oils (also called "blends") usually use a small percentage of non-conventional, high-performance fluids in combination with conventional base oil.


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What's the overall benefit of Mobil 1 with SuperSyn Technology?

Mobil 1 with SuperSyn Technology exceeds the latest industry and OEM requirements. It is designed for vehicles under warranty and will provide protection for the maximum oil change interval recommended in your owner's manual or by your oil life sensor.

The overall goal for Mobil 1 has always been to protect your engine, even under the most severe conditions, such as cold starting temperatures, extreme high-temperature operations and high-load conditions. Mobil 1 has been formulated with a performance reserve to provide you the peace of mind that your engine is protected during these severe conditions. But Mobil 1 with SuperSyn is not just for extreme service. You can also realize Mobil 1's benefits of improved engine cleanliness and extended engine life under "normal" service.


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Postby PXLpainter » Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:03 am

I've been using Mobil 1 for over ten years in 4 different vehicles... starting with the first oil change after OEM break-in. Never had any probs and only do oil changes every 5-6K mi.
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Postby Stevarian » Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:20 pm

Any opinions about synthetic blends?

The last time I had my oil changed I asked about synthetic vs blends vs regular oil, and the tech said something about blends giving you the best of both, that there were advantages to regular oil and with synthetic. He said he only used a blended oil in his cars. For the life of me, I can't remember all the specifics of his reasoning, so I thought I would post here.

I am due for my next oil change, and was thinking of a blend, or possibly full synthetic.

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Postby QuickSEV6 » Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:28 pm

I use Redline. Full synthetic. $12.00 a quart, but manufacturer recommends oil changes once a year, so it works out to be about the same as dino oil.

http://www.redlineoil.com/products_motoroil.asp
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Postby Somedude » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:32 pm

If I use synthetic oil on my Solara, would the car be more fuel efficient? I don't know much about it except that it gives better engine protection than natural motor oil.
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Postby Sebas007 » Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:52 pm

I really don't get the point of those that are using synthetic oil and do oil change every 3-5K miles....if you do so use normal oil !!!!! It is a waste of $$$ totaly...Synthetic oil made to stand up to at least 10-12K miles. The oil is "chimicly" modified to resist better to hot temp and long term use...so at least for those who are using synthetic oil...try to use the benefit of it...for yourself !!
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Postby NeFaRiOuS_SLE » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:04 pm

Mobil1 Synthetic does recommend about 5,000 miles, rather than the 3,000 you use with dino oil and better for the engine... 10,000+ is usually either an oil that's designed as "extended life" WITH a special filter (most oil change places and dealerships don't carry it), or just a hoax/false advertising by the manufacturer that claims that their cars are so reliable that you can do so, but that's just a claim for the mechanically inept to spend more money repairing parts that get excessive wear from the intervals.

By the way, doesn't Canada use KM instead of miles? Hope that's not a source of confusion.
3,000 miles = 4,828.03 KM = usually $20 for a basic oil change = $0.01/mile
5,000 miles = 8,406.72 KM = usually $45 for a synthetic oil change = $0.009/mile

$0.009 X 3,000 miles = $27, so it's not that much more if you think about it that way.
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Postby QuickSEV6 » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:14 pm

NeFaRiOuS_SLE wrote:Mobil1 Synthetic does recommend about 5,000 miles, rather than the 3,000 you use with dino oil and better for the engine... 10,000+ is usually either an oil that's designed as "extended life" WITH a special filter (most oil change places and dealerships don't carry it), or just a hoax/false advertising by the manufacturer that claims that their cars are so reliable that you can do so, but that's just a claim for the mechanically inept to spend more money repairing parts that get excessive wear from the intervals.

By the way, doesn't Canada use KM instead of miles?
3,000 miles = 4,828.03 KM
5,000 miles = 8,406.72 KM

Redline recommends 18,000 miles between changes. Field tests show no problems up to 25,000 miles, but to be safe, you should change at 12,000 to 18,000. They provided test results and explanations here:
http://www.redlineoil.com/whitePaper/motoroils.pdf
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Postby PXLpainter » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:12 pm

I see no advantage to blends of regular oil over synthetic - other than lining the Bush's pockets! :x

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