To those that have gone the gen 3 brake route..

[TMMK Toy]

As the title states, just wondering for those that went with the gen 3 brake upgrade on the front if you notice your brake pedal behaves differently, i.e. going down slightly farther before engagement? I know there might be some different feel since the master cylinder has to move a bit more fluid into the larger calipers. Also, been driving me eight six a lot lately and the pedal engages the brakes at the slightest jab. So not sure if I'm just not used to driving the camry in a while or what. Also not sure if maybe I just need to warm up the pads some. I'm really tempted to try to rebleed the brakes and see if that improves things.

So ya, just wondering for those who have gone this route if you notice your pedal felt different in any manner?

[grnsolara]

I had the same problem. The rebleed fixed it though, so I'd say give that a shot, and go from there.

[Jakecallun20]

I didn't notice too much, other than the fact that I don't need to push the pedal down as far to fully stop. I used EBC green stuff with all new brake fluid. Try the rebleed and if that doesn't fix it, make sure your system is pressurized.

[TMMK Toy]

Well I drove my parents 2000 camry 4 cylinder and their pedal did seem to engage a bit sooner than mine. I might try a rebleed and see if things are better. However, seems like it wasnt an issue today on my car. Guess after driving it more I got use to the different pedal feel and when the brakes do warm up, they do grab nice as hell. When I bedded them last week, they def. were doing their job so I'd say I got pressure, just maybe need to do more thorough bleeding. Once I had warmed em up they were a lil more grabby too

[SleeperSolara]

Yeah like everyone said, re-bleed them.
I bled mine once, and there was so much air in the hard line from replacin' the f-ed up one wit a good one and all that air in the caliper.
When i was brakin' in the new pads and rotors, i could tell a big difference.
Now that i've got them broken in, it bites down better than stock.

I can't wait to get the rear ones on.

[TMMK Toy]

Well just to update. I rebled em at my old work last night. We gravity bled them for a while, then went around and bled each corner then repeated one more time, as on the first round some air came out of the driver side front line. After doing this the pedal seemed rock hard and engaged right away. I was very happy.

Today though it seems like the pedal feels softer again and doesnt engage right away. So I'm wondering if maybe it's just the pads aren't warmed up when I'm first driving it. It still stops great. Maybe I'm just used to the pedal. I doubt there would be more air in the lines, as I'd think if there was, then the pedal wouldn't have felt as solid as it was last night. There are no leaks as the master cylinder level is still good. Guess I'll just drive it for a week or two and see how I feel about it

[SleeperSolara]

Well just to update. I rebled em at my old work last night. We gravity bled them for a while, then went around and bled each corner then repeated one more time, as on the first round some air came out of the driver side front line. After doing this the pedal seemed rock hard and engaged right away. I was very happy.

Today though it seems like the pedal feels softer again and doesnt engage right away. So I'm wondering if maybe it's just the pads aren't warmed up when I'm first driving it. It still stops great. Maybe I'm just used to the pedal. I doubt there would be more air in the lines, as I'd think if there was, then the pedal wouldn't have felt as solid as it was last night. There are no leaks as the master cylinder level is still good. Guess I'll just drive it for a week or two and see how I feel about it

Yeah my brake pedal at first felt like that.
Then my friend said i had to get used to the new setup wit the SS brake lines.

[TMMK Toy]

Well after driving some more I'm pretty much convinced that something aint right and the pedal is getting spongier. I'm frustrated as hell. Master Cylinder level is good, so I doubt there's any leaks unless it's very slight. Or, there was still air when I last bled but maybe it was in the abs module and so why the pedal stayed hard for a bit? I'm gonna try to rebleed em yet again. argh

[SleeperSolara]

Well after driving some more I'm pretty much convinced that something aint right and the pedal is getting spongier. I'm frustrated as hell. Master Cylinder level is good, so I doubt there's any leaks unless it's very slight. Or, there was still air when I last bled but maybe it was in the abs module and so why the pedal stayed hard for a bit? I'm gonna try to rebleed em yet again. argh

Hmm.....
What do you mean the master cylinder level is good??
You mean the brake fluid level is good??
The master cylinder could be bad??

[TMMK Toy]

Ya, I meant the fluid level was good. I bled em again last night and really no difference. I think I'm just not used to the twin pistons so why the pedal feel is throwing me off. Now that I think about it, it was the same deal when I went from single piston to dual on my dsm years ago. Pedal effort didn't feel as "direct" but it still stopped. I even had my dad drive it and he thinks it stops damn good. Hell, he had me against my seatbelt a few times so I think that says it's doing it's job. Just gotta get used to it. Course now it seems like my tires are holding be back.

[SleeperSolara]

Ya, I meant the fluid level was good. I bled em again last night and really no difference. I think I'm just not used to the twin pistons so why the pedal feel is throwing me off. Now that I think about it, it was the same deal when I went from single piston to dual on my dsm years ago. Pedal effort didn't feel as "direct" but it still stopped. I even had my dad drive it and he thinks it stops damn good. Hell, he had me against my seatbelt a few times so I think that says it's doing it's job. Just gotta get used to it. Course now it seems like my tires are holding be back.

Yeah, ok.
Have you replaced the master cylinder??
I had to get used to my new twin piston setup.
Add some SS brake lines, then you'll feel a difference. lol.

[TMMK Toy]

Nope, didnt replace the master cylinder. And I already got SS lines. Only got em up front. I had all four but then back in November the driver side rear started to leak so I had it replaced with a rubber one and then replaced the other rear with another rubber to even them out.

[Dawgz]

Nope, didnt replace the master cylinder. And I already got SS lines. Only got em up front. I had all four but then back in November the driver side rear started to leak so I had it replaced with a rubber one and then replaced the other rear with another rubber to even them out.

What brand of SS lines did u use for the rear?

[SleeperSolara]

Nope, didnt replace the master cylinder. And I already got SS lines. Only got em up front. I had all four but then back in November the driver side rear started to leak so I had it replaced with a rubber one and then replaced the other rear with another rubber to even them out.

I see.
Oh??
Yeah i had the rears on my car for the longest time, cause of my front passenger hard line was givin' me a hard problem.
From my experenice neva run a SS brake line on 1 side and rubber on the other.

I got some Goodrich SS brake lines.

[TMMK Toy]

I had used goodridge lines front and rear. Then the one failed so I was rocking one rubber and one ss in the rear until I did this brake upgrade then swapped out the other rear ss with rubber to even it out. I tried to get a replacement ss line but the guy I dealt with flaked out on me. He kept telling me he was waiting on parts, saying the material he needed was coming in the following day and I called the following day a shitload of times so told him to forget it. Bits and Pieces was the company. Supposedly they make the lines for goodridge and goodridge sells em.