ATTN: Jim's Torque Rod Owners

[SleeperSolara]

Dang man.
I've had my OEM one for a long time and i haven't broke my bracket yet.
And i drive my car hard too.

[TMMK Toy]

WTF? Kings lasted over a year, on the original bracket, untouched.....

I need to find a really really good way to weld them.....

Yes, you do.

[Camry Racing]

I am a torque rod owner, but not a user. Mine isn't installed yet, but this is a great post to keep in mind when I install it. Thanks

lol + 1 havent installed it yet

[Chinky420]

i think the moral of the story is: Don't Lend Out Your Car To Other Drivers.


beyond that....yeah the bracket needs to be reinforced.

[mazen222]

the trouble you guys go through for something that imo is not worth it... This is the second post i read about this... i dont know if its bad design or just no design at all, but im staying away from this mod

[Mr_Krispy1183]

I believe that climate/condition of your other mounts also play a role in whether or not you will experience snappage. Don't knock the rod, it is a great modification. However, common sense dictates that when you replace a shock absorber with a stainless rod/urethane bushings, you better be sure that everything is hunky-dory beforehand everywhere else on your car.

[~SolaRaSpeed~]

I think the reason people are breaking the bracket is incorrect installation. The poly bushings should absorb most of the force as long as you haven't squished the crap out of them by over tightening during install. Find a relatively flat area and just make it snug. And I will add that having the poly dogbone bushings with the torque rod only makes more sense to reduce stress on the torque rod.

[SleeperSolara]

I think the reason people are breaking the bracket is incorrect installation. The poly bushings should absorb most of the force as long as you haven't squished the crap out of them by over tightening during install. Find a relatively flat area and just make it snug. And I will add that having the poly dogbone bushings with the torque rod only makes more sense to reduce stress on the torque rod.

I agree.
I have both mods, and i love it.
I installed my torque rod in a hanger that was flat like no other.
I added washers on both sides to make the distance equal on the bottom bolt.

[Chinky420]

I think the reason people are breaking the bracket is incorrect installation. The poly bushings should absorb most of the force as long as you haven't squished the crap out of them by over tightening during install. Find a relatively flat area and just make it snug. And I will add that having the poly dogbone bushings with the torque rod only makes more sense to reduce stress on the torque rod.

for me, sure incorrect installation the first time (hence the reason i made this post...last year), but this time the rod was seated properly around the bracket, and the only reason it broke was that i lend out my car to someone who doesn't come to a stop before switching between R and D.

the poly bushings were absorbing most all of the force, except for that big thud that happened when shifting from R to D (when rolling backwards). and since the shock of the motion was entirely too much for the bushing to absorb, well, the excess force was taken out on the bracket....plus it was already broken and rewelded together once...so it already has a break point across the metal where the stress can focus on.


now, as far as why everyone else is breaking their brackets, yeah probably incorrect installation....unless they've read this post and followed the advice herein.

[SleeperSolara]

I think the reason people are breaking the bracket is incorrect installation. The poly bushings should absorb most of the force as long as you haven't squished the crap out of them by over tightening during install. Find a relatively flat area and just make it snug. And I will add that having the poly dogbone bushings with the torque rod only makes more sense to reduce stress on the torque rod.

for me, sure incorrect installation the first time (hence the reason i made this post...last year), but this time the rod was seated properly around the bracket, and the only reason it broke was that i lend out my car to someone who doesn't come to a stop before switching between R and D.

the poly bushings were absorbing most all of the force, except for that big thud that happened when shifting from R to D (when rolling backwards). and since the shock of the motion was entirely too much for the bushing to absorb, well, the excess force was taken out on the bracket....plus it was already broken and rewelded together once...so it already has a break point across the metal where the stress can focus on.


now, as far as why everyone else is breaking their brackets, yeah probably incorrect installation....unless they've read this post and followed the advice herein.

Yeah that shiftin' from "R" to "D" and not stoppin' fully will tear that bracket up.
There's 2 Gen 3 Camry wit the tranny and the bracket still on, let me know if you need one.

[TMMK Toy]

Mine was installed fine, shimmed with washers, and I got dogbone bushing, but I still like the mod. Still would be nice to find a beefier bracket

[Camry Racing]

I got mine installed

[RON]

the trouble you guys go through for something that imo is not worth it... This is the second post i read about this... i dont know if its bad design or just no design at all, but im staying away from this mod

I installed this set up today...someone was selling it here a month or so ago and when I saw it I scooped it up. Here's the pic...



Notice how BOTH brackets are reinforced. I would recommend getting the modified brackets made by the guys here or making a new batch welded up like these.
Anyway, I have a 5 speed SC and the speed shifts are now crisper. Also, no noticeable increase in vibration either.

[Gibson99]

I got mine installed

what kinda headers are those? i'd be afraid they'd melt the tranny dipstick, being that close...