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Postby kronos98 » Sat Aug 16, 2003 12:13 pm

I understand what each of you is saying: XERD defending its position as a company, and Danny in the role of David vs. Goliath.

In support of XERD, I believe we can take their word for now, and hopefully for a long time in the future. They are making an honest effort to provide parts for us, which we can't say for many companies. Most companies don't view the Solara as a profitable venue, which is true, because you don't see a gazillion souped up Solaras on the road every day. Perhaps that leaves us to smaller companies to exploit, or maybe they honestly wish to build up a good reputation and a healthy market where both the customer and the company win. We'll have to see on that.

Hopefully, this CAI will prove to be worth all the hype that's been going around. In that case, we win because we get to have the long coveted CAI, and XERD wins because they successfully completed their project, giving them some profit, but in the long run, opening up doors to more projects.

As for Danny, I've also seen his car and read much about him for a while now. I know he is hardcore Solara, which draws both respect and awe from me. I know that he is genuinely interested in making Solaras better, so I wouldn't dismiss his questions because they make us uncomfortable.

Does Danny make any money? any profit by causing us to not buy XERD's CAI? He states several times that he is not out to sell his own CAI. As for the timing of his comments, Danny is not assigned to monitoring the Solara Guy forum full-time. To my understanding, he's a busy guy and comes to visit the forum when he can. He posts in spurts, and goes underground for a while, until he has time or something useful to say. Then he comes back. If you've read his posts, you would know that he has valuable things to say.

Look at his motives, he's got nothing to gain by hurting XERD. His question was an honest question. Does the CAI have long term problems? Isn't that something we should all be concerned about? That's like asking, "How long will this HID imitation bulb last?" That is not a cheap shot at the company. It is a natural law: things break.

Companies do make mistakes. XERD is saying that they are willing to take full responsbility for their work. If they do have a problem, they'll handle it. XERD shouldn't take offense to questions being asked. There is the possibility that they may have made an oversight of some kind. How does it hurt to question such things? Danny didn't ask, "Does your product suck?" IMHO, he asked a very technical and educated question. A question that none of us so far have had the experience or insight to ask thus far...including XERD if I'm not mistaken.

It has been my personal experience that even though we may have to swallow our pride from time to time, we should always listen to those who have more experience with specific things...even if we have more overall experience, Danny in this case has specific experience with the Solara platform's CAI. At the very least...it couldn't hurt to take a second and listen.

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Postby Yanks0114 » Sat Aug 16, 2003 1:22 pm

Very well put Kronos
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Good lookin out Danny.

Postby guest » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:00 pm

Thanks for raising some very important questions, and basically looking out for those of us that are eager, to just buy the first thing that comes along. Thanks for sharing your experiences and knowledge on this topic.
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Postby Jaimster » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:38 pm

Xerd, just keep doing what you're doing! Kudos to you and your company for your hard work. I hope you make alot of money from these intakes and hope you and your company has much success in your design as I'm sure you will! :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Postby NASTY » Sat Aug 16, 2003 4:01 pm

Solara1 wrote:Xerd, just keep doing what you're doing! Kudos to you and your company for your hard work. I hope you make alot of money from these intakes and hope you and your cpmpany has much success in your design as I'm sure you will!


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Postby XERD » Sat Aug 16, 2003 5:43 pm

Hello,

We never took Danny's comments in bad taste, however he is comparing 2 different products, he had a problem with his intake, not ours.

We test all of our products and we dont put 3,000 miles on all of our products before we release them. The only product where we do put a lot of miles on the car for testing would be turbo kits.

For a product such as an intake to be honest is not a brain buster, its an intake. I am sorry Danny but if you already put 3,000 miles on your car and still couldn't figure out a way to make an intake for that car that should say something. I am not saying anything bad about you all i am saying is that maybe you dont have the time and support that we do to create a product. You might make a great product in the future but it really doesn't and shouldn't take 3,000 miles to just figure out an intake.

It is very simple, we will test (there are way to check for signs on damage within the first 20 start up of the car) if we see no problem at that point the intake will still be released on Monday. It is up to the customer if he wants to buy it or not however we did just what we said we would do and made this part which members asked for.

We have over 40 people on our list, this product wont go into production until we have at least 15 buyers which i dont think would be a problem but we will find out this coming week.

If someone will ever have a problem with the intake we will replace it free of charge and if we find our intake to have any faults this coming week it will only take us a matter of days to fix the problem.

As a side note, this is what we do 24/7, we make parts, this is not a part time job for us. If we make a bad product we wouldn't make money and in time will be out of business, thats not a smart way to run a business.

Thanx, Eyal
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Postby XERD » Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:09 pm

As for CARB/Emissions questions let me clarify a few things.

CARB legal and to pass a smog test is 2 different things. You can have a product on your car that is not CARB certified and still pass the smog test, the only problem you will have is that some places wont even let you smog your car if they see there is no CARB # on an after market product.

For a product like an intake which is so easy to install or remove i really dont see why anyone would have a problem with. You only need to test your car every 3 year in cali.

If you have all your factory exhaust manifolds and cats on the car you shouldn't have a problem passing the smog test with our intake however it has never been tested yet. For example even our Toyota supra headers which remove 2 pre-cats still passes the smog test.

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Postby Danny » Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:17 pm

I personally would love to see as much time and effort go into an intake as a turbo kit, i take as much pride in my supercharger as my intake.

how can you tell that a product is not going to break after 20 start up. When i say 3000 mi , thats 3000 miles worth of drag racing, e-braking, dumping the clutch, double clutching etc. The stuff we all like to do once in awhile. That is what caused mine to break, not turning a key.
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Postby XERD » Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:25 pm

I didnt say break, i said to see any signs of damage.

If we do end up seeing any signs of early damage then we will take that into account and make the necessary changes.

Anything can break with the right amount of abuse, we make parts that will hold on the specific application.

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Postby XERD » Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:31 pm

I think i have explained enough about this issue. We will find out in time.

We warranty our products so our customer wont have to worry about anything.

Have a good weekend everyone.

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Postby geminimouse » Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:59 pm

I'm not really worried about anything happening to the intake. I worry more about what an defective intake would do to my car. The warranty probably only covers the intake, what about the parts that breaks 'cause of the intake.
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Postby kronos98 » Sat Aug 16, 2003 7:23 pm

Maybe in the pure length of my post, my intent was lost!

My point was, we're all working towards the same goal...

As Eyal stated, we'll install our CAIs and time will tell. If indeed there is a problem, either what Danny stated or otherwise, I'm sure XERD will handle it.

At this point, with the release date nearly upon us, let's cross each bridge when we get there.

Keep up the good work XERD! and thanks for the heads up Danny!
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Postby lildk50 » Sat Aug 16, 2003 8:17 pm

Hey Xerd, when's the last day we can get the 179 price? I only ask b/c I've been tryin to get some more cash from workin more 8)
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Postby Jaimster » Sat Aug 16, 2003 8:44 pm

Since when would e-braking mess up an intake? :roll:
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Postby 808Camry » Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:48 pm

Solara1 wrote:Since when would e-braking mess up an intake? :roll:


Danny's refering to the brace, and if you e-brake/drift turns, you're putting more vibration on your entire car, hence affecting the intake bracket. :wink:
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