Debating on replacing the FSB

by **TMMK Toy** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:15 pm

Ok so Id like my camry to handle even better and wondering if I should replaced the FSB. I know a bigger bar will make it less likely to oversteer but I figured itd help with body roll plus wheel hop. I've been debating between Whiteline and ADdco. Whiteline is 24mm and the Addco is 7/8''. I believe 7/8'' converted to metric is around 22-23 mm, but not 100% certain on this. Anyone able to confirm and would this be better since its a smaller bar and thus less understeer would be in the suspension setup? Also, anyone know the weights of either product?

by **CamryOnBronze** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:32 pm

have you replaced your RSB? i have found with both of my fwd platform camrys that the RSB alone helps a ton with understeer... i would think a FSB would send you in the other direction, but Im not positive on that...

by **TMMK Toy** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:17 pm

Read my thread below and ur questions is answered. Already got the TRD rear sway on. Looking for just more refined handling

by **TadS** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:21 pm

I have the Whiteline bars for front and rear. The rear bar helped a lot, but the front bar made a larger overall difference. The front of the car really sticks now, however the ride is pretty harsh with the front bar added. I drove strait though from here to Niagara Falls a few years ago for a meet, and by the end of the trip I was pretty sore. It’s a great mod in my opinion, but you give up a lot in ride comfort. I have also broken a FSB bushing bracket with this mod, which I think really shows how little flex there is in the bar / bushings.

by **SleeperSolara** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:42 pm

TadS wrote:I have the Whiteline bars for front and rear. The rear bar helped a lot, but the front bar made a larger overall difference. The front of the car really sticks now, however the ride is pretty harsh with the front bar added. I drove strait though from here to Niagara Falls a few years ago for a meet, and by the end of the trip I was pretty sore. It’s a great mod in my opinion, but you give up a lot in ride comfort. I have also broken a FSB bushing bracket with this mod, which I think really shows how little flex there is in the bar / bushings.

Yeah i want to get a Whiteline Front Sway Bar, but i really don't like the idea of the Front Sway Bar bracket breakin' on me.

But yeah the TRD Rear Sway Bar will left you have more understeer, addin' a Front Sway Bar will balance it out.
Wit just a Front Sway Bar will create more oversteer.
Lowerin' your car and addin' the TRD Rear Sway Bar or a Whiteline Front Sway Bar, or a Strut Tower brace will decrease the body roll.
For wheel hop that's your motor mounts.
If you get a SuperPro dogbone poly bushin' and or combination of the Torque Rod will help decrease the wheel hop.

by **PTSOLARA** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:20 am

I have both front and rear whiteline sway bars. I have no issues with the rear and it performed well. As for the front bar, i have gone through a couple of stock brackets until a forum member recommended me to get a stronger bracket from whiteline (which works really well). Now one of my sway bar links is disconnected on one side which becomes another hassle to deal with.

the FSB does provide some more solid feeling up front. But you may have to deal with a few of the issues listed above.

by **SleeperSolara** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:26 am

PTSOLARA wrote:I have both front and rear whiteline sway bars. I have no issues with the rear and it performed well. As for the front bar, i have gone through a couple of stock brackets until a forum member recommended me to get a stronger bracket from whiteline (which works really well). Now one of my sway bar links is disconnected on one side which becomes another hassle to deal with.

the FSB does provide some more solid feeling up front. But you may have to deal with a few of the issues listed above.

Can you point out which bracket from Whiteline that you used.
Cause if there is one that's stronger than stock i'll probably pick up a Whiteline Front Sway Bar.

by **TadS** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:33 pm

PTSOLARA wrote:recommended me to get a stronger bracket from whiteline

Link & P/N please! I don't want to break another one :lol:

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by **SleeperSolara** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:54 pm

TadS wrote:
PTSOLARA wrote:recommended me to get a stronger bracket from whiteline

Link & P/N please! I don't want to break another one .

Yeah i agree.
I want to prevent it in any possible way of breakin' any brackets.

by **CamryOnBronze** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:29 pm

SleeperSolara wrote:But yeah the TRD Rear Sway Bar will left you have more understeer, addin' a Front Sway Bar will balance it out.
Wit just a Front Sway Bar will create more oversteer.

I believe its actually the other way around, a rear swaybar will cure understeer/lean you more towards oversteer, where as only a front bar will add even more understeer. From my experience/research with my gen 3 camry and solara that is what I have found...

by **redgen1** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:59 pm

CamryOnBronze wrote:
SleeperSolara wrote:But yeah the TRD Rear Sway Bar will left you have more understeer, addin' a Front Sway Bar will balance it out.
Wit just a Front Sway Bar will create more oversteer.

I believe its actually the other way around, a rear swaybar will cure understeer/lean you more towards oversteer, where as only a front bar will add even more understeer. From my experience/research with my gen 3 camry and solara that is what I have found...

+1, that sounds right on the money to me damon

by **TMMK Toy** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:38 am

Ya I thought I made it clear in the first post that I know bigger rear sways promoter oversteer and larger fronts understeer. Just I guess I wanted to hear from some people who actually have replaced their front along with their rear and now I got some better feeling for if I want to do it or not. I'll prob. wait till I do my brakes and bushings. Those are really the areas needing attention next as far as my handling matters

by **SleeperSolara** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:36 am

TMMK Toy wrote:Ya I thought I made it clear in the first post that I know bigger rear sways promoter oversteer and larger fronts understeer. Just I guess I wanted to hear from some people who actually have replaced their front along with their rear and now I got some better feeling for if I want to do it or not. I'll prob. wait till I do my brakes and bushings. Those are really the areas needing attention next as far as my handling matters

Yeah i agree.
Right now i'm waitin' for my fron DBA rotors to come in.
Hopefully those will improve my brakin' power, i also got SS lines, and DBA rear rotors too.
By the way the rotors are slotted.

by **TMMK Toy** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:08 pm

Gotcha. I dont really feel the need for slotted rotors. Goin with brembo blanks and hawk hps pads and SS lines with ATE brake fluid. Same setup I ran on my 90 corolla and the pads wore out in about 40k of hard braking and the rotors still had plenty of life left. Bedding is key too

by **SleeperSolara** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:51 pm

TMMK Toy wrote:Gotcha. I dont really feel the need for slotted rotors. Goin with brembo blanks and hawk hps pads and SS lines with ATE brake fluid. Same setup I ran on my 90 corolla and the pads wore out in about 40k of hard braking and the rotors still had plenty of life left. Bedding is key too

Yeah.
I'm goin' to just use the pads i have on my car first and then bump to Hawk HPS pads, i got new OEM TOYOTA brake fluid in my brake system now.

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