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1/4 miles Time slip

1/4 miles Time slip

Postby Sebas007 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:30 am

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Hi guys,

I'm about to go to the Napierville's dragway or Sanair's dragway (both are in Quebec near the US borders). I did many search trying to find out how long it can takes for a Gen 2 V6 to do the 1/4 mile. Anyone knows it ? I'm just curious. It will be my first time at a dragway...I hope at least that I will be near the 100MPH at the 1/4 miles.

Thanks
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Postby michaels artic frost » Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:43 am

Here's some time from another SG member.

http://www.solaraguy.org/viewtopic.php?t=8095&highlight=mile
Weedo wrote:Ok, so I'm mean to my car, I took it to the 1/4 track last week. 200 miles on it. It's an '04 SE Sport. Firebird (here in Phoenix) is known for slow times. I'll give you examples: My Lightning ran a 14.2 stock (should be a 13.8 per the magazines). Same with my SS Camaro - 14.2 stock and should be 13.7 or 13.8.

Anyway, Road and Track has us at 15.0 at 94.1mph. I ran 15.9 @ 89.6, best run, shifting manually. Now, I KNOW the dealer puts in 87 octane so that should account for some of the crappy time. Plus it's new and not broken it at all, and Firebird is slow. It's usually up to .5 slower, but I ran .9 slower than the magazine, sucks.... I still ran an almost identical time to a '92ish Mustang LX 5.0 with a stick. He got a better 60' time, thus the slight win on his part, same mile per hour though.

The WORST part about the Solara is the 60' time. My BEST was a 2.4x which is the worst by far of any car i've taken there (I've had about 10 there). Years ago I had a '97 Sentra SER that would get 2.0 or 2.1. Every tenth in the 60' is a tenth and a half at the end.

Moral of the story, we need a STALL CONVERTOR!!! The MPH is pretty good. There were 2 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP's (supercharged) running that night at around 15.1 @ 88mph. So, quicker, but slower on the big end.

Anyway, just thought I'd fill you all in.


Hope this helps and good luck bro! Keep us posted with your results.

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Postby shocar4 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:58 am

100mph...wow that might be a stretch!
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Re: 1/4 miles Time slip

Postby MikeATL » Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:06 pm

Sebas007 wrote:Hi guys,

I'm about to go to the Napierville's dragway or Sanair's dragway (both are in Quebec near the US borders). I did many serach trying to find out how long it can takes for a Gen 2 V6 to do the 1/4 mile. Anyone knows it ? I'm just curious. It will be my first time at a dragway...I hope at least that I will be near the 100MPH at the 1/4 miles.

Thanks


You probably know all the basic stuff: take out as much stuff as you can (spare tire, etc), the less fuel you have in the tank the better, windows up, ac off, etc...

basic stuff, just thought that i would mention it.
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Re: 1/4 miles Time slip

Postby Sebas007 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:22 pm

Thanks Mike !! :) I'll go to the dragway between now and the end of August...depending on my friend's schedule.

michaels artic frost wrote:Hope this helps and good luck bro! Keep us posted with your results.


Thanks man...I forgot about the spire tire !! Like you said the rest of it is basic...but we cannot ignore it...we are so heavy !!!!

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Sebas007 wrote:Hi guys,

I'm about to go to the Napierville's dragway or Sanair's dragway (both are in Quebec near the US borders). I did many serach trying to find out how long it can takes for a Gen 2 V6 to do the 1/4 mile. Anyone knows it ? I'm just curious. It will be my first time at a dragway...I hope at least that I will be near the 100MPH at the 1/4 miles.

Thanks


You probably know all the basic stuff: take out as much stuff as you can (spare tire, etc), the less fuel you have in the tank the better, windows up, ac off, etc...

basic stuff, just thought that i would mention it.


shocar4 wrote:100mph...wow that might be a stretch!


Yeah I know 100 MPH is a dreaming number...but I said near 100MPH I hope it's not too demanding ! ;)
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Postby Down2TheC » Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:33 pm

I took my SLE conv. to the track and did stock and cp-e. I think 15.9 was the best I saw which kind of matches the drag results with MichaelT.

Conv w/ cp-e = coupe stock.

So you should see better results. The exception is that my 15.9 was in cool air. (65F) and you'll prolly have hotter weather. So it's not 100% comparable.
I'll look for my track thread.

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Postby Sebas007 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:46 pm

At the end of August it will be around 65F, if I trust last year numbers.
Yeah your 165 extra pounds don't play in the SLE ragtop favor.

Starting that youre a big guy too (I do 6'3" 285lbs) I still keep a little advantage in the weight ! ;)

Down2TheC wrote:I took my SLE conv. to the track and did stock and cp-e. I think 15.9 was the best I saw which kind of matches the drag results with MichaelT.

Conv w/ cp-e = coupe stock.

So you should see better results. The exception is that my 15.9 was in cool air. (65F) and you'll prolly have hotter weather. So it's not 100% comparable.
I'll look for my track thread.
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Postby FLUXEMAG » Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:58 pm

Tthe new 3.5L camry does the 1/4 mile at 98MPH per motortrend testing on TV.
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Postby Sebas007 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:01 pm

The 3.5L is a beauty !!!! Sad that isn't goes out in the 2004+ Solara models !!
FLUXEMAG wrote:Tthe new 3.5L camry does the 1/4 mile at 98MPH per motortrend testing on TV.
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Postby Down2TheC » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:38 pm

Sebas007 wrote:Yeah your 165 extra pounds don't play in the SLE ragtop favor. Starting that youre a big guy too (I do 6'3" 285lbs) I still keep a little advantage in the weight ! ;)


And I had the stock airbox and tools in the trunk! :P For your ride... I'll take 15.7 - 15.75 in the pool. That's my guess.
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Re: 1/4 miles Time slip

Postby siennasc98 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:47 pm

Sebas007 wrote:Hi guys,

I'm about to go to the Napierville's dragway or Sanair's dragway (both are in Quebec near the US borders). I did many search trying to find out how long it can takes for a Gen 2 V6 to do the 1/4 mile. Anyone knows it ? I'm just curious. It will be my first time at a dragway...I hope at least that I will be near the 100MPH at the 1/4 miles.

Thanks


Hi,

When you went to CP Engineering to have your CP-e intake tuned, did you a get a new fuel map from Josh?

I installed the Gen-1 Solara CP-e on my TRD S/C'd 1MZFE and just using the base fuel map for Gen 1.
It's almost 7-week now and no CEL so far.

Reading the file Gen_I_solara_tune.tun from the MAF Customizer CD and under the tab;

Primary RPMs vs. TPS (0 - 5.0 volts) chart, here are the values;

0000 - 3136 RPM 0% factory values/not changed by the MAF customizer

It's from these RPM's when the customizer is starting to deduct from 5% to 7% of the actual factory TPS sensor voltage reading ranging from 3.1 to 4.4 volts

3362 - 4034 RPM (- 5.0%)
4484 - 5155 RPM (- 5.5%)
5379 - 5603 RPM (- 6.5%)
5603 - 6500 RPM (- 7.0%)

Though I'm very... very satisfied with the current intake setting, I would like to try the setting for the 06 since I have the tuneable MAF customizer. At high RPM, I’m surprising a lot of drivers by the way the van pulls hard. Climbing Donner Pass (trip to Reno) is now a thing of the past.

I will find a local tuner (with an advanced dyno equipment like the Mustang Dynamometer 1750se that can also do the 1/4 mile pull without going to the track) and willing to tune a not so ordinary minivan.
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Postby Down2TheC » Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:46 pm

^^^ Wow! If you get a pro-tuned map for the S/C, I hope you'll share it with the other Gen1 guys. CP-e hasn't made one and I don't know that they plan to. Heck, maybe Josh would pay for part of the tune if you give him dyno graphs and a copy of the map.
Though moving maps from vehicle to vehicle should be safe, going from engine to engine I think would be brave. The '06 didn't like the '04 tune for our 3MZ. What are the odds that your 1MZ will like the '06 tune? So be careful and good luck!
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Re: 1/4 miles Time slip

Postby Sebas007 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:28 am

Wow man !! Yeah I got the re-tuned map for the '06...I went at their facilities beginning of July (04-07). I went to a dyno last Saturday. The numbers are different because of the poor air density...but I read on it and I apply formulas. My results are a 8% difference in air density that equal a 6% in power. The formulas take in consideration (temp, absolute barometric pressure and humidity). I reach the numbers that CP-e are selling. BTW the AFR are perfect thru all the RPM band. I got the tunable version too.

One thing left....you want to try the '06 re-tuned fuel map for your Gen 1 ??? Or you want to test it your side on a '06 Solara V6 ?


The Gen 1 and 1.5 or lucky !!! Even the CP-e MAFci system give them more power...twice of it (comparing with Gen2 )!!! Like they would need it with all performance parts available ! :P

A jealous guy !! hehe

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Sebas007 wrote:Hi guys,

I'm about to go to the Napierville's dragway or Sanair's dragway (both are in Quebec near the US borders). I did many search trying to find out how long it can takes for a Gen 2 V6 to do the 1/4 mile. Anyone knows it ? I'm just curious. It will be my first time at a dragway...I hope at least that I will be near the 100MPH at the 1/4 miles.

Thanks


Hi,

When you went to CP Engineering to have your CP-e intake tuned, did you a get a new fuel map from Josh?

I installed the Gen-1 Solara CP-e on my TRD S/C'd 1MZFE and just using the base fuel map for Gen 1.
It's almost 7-week now and no CEL so far.

Reading the file Gen_I_solara_tune.tun from the MAF Customizer CD and under the tab;

Primary RPMs vs. TPS (0 - 5.0 volts) chart, here are the values;

0000 - 3136 RPM 0% factory values/not changed by the MAF customizer

It's from these RPM's when the customizer is starting to deduct from 5% to 7% of the actual factory TPS sensor voltage reading ranging from 3.1 to 4.4 volts

3362 - 4034 RPM (- 5.0%)
4484 - 5155 RPM (- 5.5%)
5379 - 5603 RPM (- 6.5%)
5603 - 6500 RPM (- 7.0%)

Though I'm very... very satisfied with the current intake setting, I would like to try the setting for the 06 since I have the tuneable MAF customizer. At high RPM, I’m surprising a lot of drivers by the way the van pulls hard. Climbing Donner Pass (trip to Reno) is now a thing of the past.

I will find a local tuner (with an advanced dyno equipment like the Mustang Dynamometer 1750se that can also do the 1/4 mile pull without going to the track) and willing to tune a not so ordinary minivan.
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Postby Sebas007 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:57 am

hehe

Do you guys know if I can rev like at 3500 RPM in N position going to D...like a manual do at start of a drag ?? I'm just worry to break down my tranny hehe

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Sebas007 wrote:Yeah your 165 extra pounds don't play in the SLE ragtop favor. Starting that youre a big guy too (I do 6'3" 285lbs) I still keep a little advantage in the weight ! ;)


And I had the stock airbox and tools in the trunk! :P For your ride... I'll take 15.7 - 15.75 in the pool. That's my guess.
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neutral drop

Postby Sentinel » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:14 am

you do NOT want to rev your engine up in N and drop it into drive. This is a good way to loose a tranny.

On a similar tip: has anyone had their stall converter (Auto Trans, obviously) tweaked higher? I have a gen 1,and think I'd be faster off the line if my converter would hok up a few hundered RPM faster.
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