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Big Brake Kits

Postby Sebas007 » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:37 am

Hi Folks,

I want to know if some of you guys have bought Rotora or StopTech big brake kit ?? I found some info in here but seems like no one have them installed. Want to know also...if I change my front break by those

Rotora
http://www.rotora.com/press%20release/SOLARA.pdf
http://www.solaraguy.org/viewtopic.php? ... =brake+kit

StopTech
http://www.solaraguy.org/viewtopic.php? ... =brake+kit

Thank you for any update on the subject !
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Postby sydemoid » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:34 am

If you wanna spend like $2k on any particular system, then yeah, those kits they make for our cars are matched down to a T.

If you prefer a more cost effective alternative, look it up, and see who is selling the Ericsol caliper brackets. This is like $400 roughly for the brackets and rotors you need. You use the stock caliper, and trust me you feel the brakes afterwards, I myself have this installed on my car, and it stops on a dime.

Unfortunately, it isnt widely available anymore, and you will find them slightly used on here, but it is well worth the money. And if you ask me, nets you better results than the Stoptech, or Rotora kits, just because it is a third of their cost.

I am working on the recreation of the brackets, already have a machine shop williing to make them for me, but I have to give them a CAD design of the bracket.... this has proven to be a pain, but I continue that saga, in hopes to offer a similar system to the future Solara owners.

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Postby StopTech » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:27 pm

Building a caliper moveout bracket an placing that with a larger rotor will increase the amount of brake torque at the wheel. It sounds like a good thing, but you may be doing more harm than good.

The shortest stopping distance is ultimate judged by the type of tires used. After that, brake balance(or perfect brake bias) is what is key for shortest stopping distance. Having the brake balanced means that the front and rear wheels are in sync with each other and they will lock up at the same time when under braking.

So with a larger rotor and the same caliper, you will end up with more heat capacity, but it maybe coming at the price of a longer stopping distance.

Wtih StopTech big brake kits, we mimic stock brake torque. Even though we have a larger rotor, the caliper has a smaller piston area to compensate for that larger rotor. What you end up with is a kit that has great pedal feel and a huge amount of heat capacity.
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Postby PhreakdOut » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:30 pm

StopTech wrote:Building a caliper moveout bracket an placing that with a larger rotor will increase the amount of brake torque at the wheel. It sounds like a good thing, but you may be doing more harm than good.

The shortest stopping distance is ultimate judged by the type of tires used. After that, brake balance(or perfect brake bias) is what is key for shortest stopping distance. Having the brake balanced means that the front and rear wheels are in sync with each other and they will lock up at the same time when under braking.

So with a larger rotor and the same caliper, you will end up with more heat capacity, but it maybe coming at the price of a longer stopping distance.

Wtih StopTech big brake kits, we mimic stock brake torque. Even though we have a larger rotor, the caliper has a smaller piston area to compensate for that larger rotor. What you end up with is a kit that has great pedal feel and a huge amount of heat capacity.


Thank you very much for the info. I believe without a doubt StopTech has a great line of products.

If there is anything StopTech can do to reduce the cost of the kits, cut us a break or come out with a lesser expensive option, I believe you might have quite a few sales. :wink:
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Postby sydemoid » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:49 pm

yup

Although, the stoptech theory may be correct, it is all depending on how you drive your vehicle, ultimately, we are all saving money for some reason or another, and for relatively less money, we can mimic some of the benefits from a full blown kit.

I know about business, and that in order for you to prosper, there has to be profit, net gains to be exact. The advantage a big company has over someone who has know how, is the ability to do research and development, and in turn, fabricate openly. Rather than finding reputable sources to produce a mimic'd item.

For now I stick to what I said, as far as brake biasing.... mainly noticeable if you do autocrossing, where the brake system is stressed beyond the limits of daily driving. Pedal feel.... believe it or not, after I broke in my kit, it feels like stock, but with a punch.

I dont knock a product, until it does me wrong, but I have to look at it from the other side of the counter, as a consumer, it is almost impossible to get a good brake kit, due to its high costs. Like I stated, you can justify those costs to whatever research, and part development you make. When in reality, as a company that buys in bulk, you get heavy discounts from the parts you use, and already have the machinery, and infrastructure to produce these things..... and your cost would probably be around 40% at most, of what you charge, leaving 60% to cover other expenses.....

I love your product line, and recommend it to those who can get it.

But, as a comsumer.... if you dont have deep enough pockets, you cant get a hold of the goods.

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Re: Big Brake Kits

Postby RJ@UPFD » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:30 am

Sebas007 wrote:Hi Folks,

I want to know if some of you guys have bought Rotora or StopTech big brake kit ?? I found some info in here but seems like no one have them installed. Want to know also...if I change my front break by those

Rotora
http://www.rotora.com/press%20release/SOLARA.pdf
http://www.solaraguy.org/viewtopic.php? ... =brake+kit

StopTech
http://www.solaraguy.org/viewtopic.php? ... =brake+kit

Thank you for any update on the subject !


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Postby alan8888 » Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:40 am

stoptech is not going to reduce their price...most their product is around 2k.
ans 2k to me have my car is already too much. I am just a poor student. I don't even get 2k for my salary. I can do a lot of staff with this 2k, instand of having a better brake. Gas price has been raised again. need to save money for the gas.
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Postby Sebas007 » Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:05 pm

alan8888 wrote:stoptech is not going to reduce their price...most their product is around 2k.
ans 2k to me have my car is already too much. I am just a poor student. I don't even get 2k for my salary. I can do a lot of staff with this 2k, instand of having a better brake. Gas price has been raised again. need to save money for the gas.


Everybody has its own priority....I don't think about big brake anymore...maybe just slotted and drilled rotor and colors calipers would be fine to me...it can sound stupid but I seek more the look than the performance on this...anyway I'm sure slotted and drilled rotor of almost the size of the OEM would be better. I will buy some 18"' and I want to see something behind that can look better then stock.

Just a question : why student gets Solara that they barely can't pay ?? I think that each thing have its own time. My 2 cents
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