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Gen 2 Custom Y pipe interest?

Postby Down2TheC » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:20 pm

PXLpainter wrote:Okay - I look at the exhaust on my V6 and can't figure out what the hell they're doing in there... what's with the big "cans" coming off the headers? Is that some kind of goofy cat or ???


Oooh! Ooooh! I can't believe I get to say this to Jeff!

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Yeah, to do a custom pipe for that section we'll have to pinout the O2 sensors in that area to fool them. As for CARB, I guess it depends on whether they hook you up to the dyno. If they just check for ECU codes then you're cool. But it's CA... as I recall they're all EPA Nazi's over there.

P.S. Josh at CP-e would tune one of us for free I'm sure.
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Postby Sebas007 » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:41 am

Biggi_e wrote:dat thanks for looking into this for us. right now i would be interested depending on the gains of this. please keeps us informed. thanks


The samething here...depending of the gains

But congrats...finally something intreresting in the Gen 2 aftermarket forum since a long time !!!!!
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Postby PXLpainter » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:44 pm

Down2TheC wrote:Oooh! Ooooh! I can't believe I get to say this to Jeff!

SEARCH!

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Yeah, to do a custom pipe for that section we'll have to pinout the O2 sensors in that area to fool them. As for CARB, I guess it depends on whether they hook you up to the dyno. If they just check for ECU codes then you're cool. But it's CA... as I recall they're all EPA Nazi's over there.

P.S. Josh at CP-e would tune one of us for free I'm sure.


Hey bite me man!! :P

FWIW - I have searched for all things exhaust on here - very little on the Gen 2 V6, and I've yet to see anything about that funky header/coffee can system! If you know of a link, sharing this information would be kindly appreciated! ;)
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Postby Down2TheC » Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:38 pm

Alright... I give. I can't find his cat related post either. But here's a good one on flow restriction. Very topical for the Ypipe discussion. But somewhere he's enlightened us on the multiple cats and O2 sensors and what a header job would require.

Phreakd on flow restriction...
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Postby PXLpainter » Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:45 pm

Yeah yeah - well aware of that thread... pretty much dashed our hopes of dual exhaust, etc...

Still never saw anything about those header-cans though... :roll:
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Postby CASTRO » Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:03 pm

check out the Gen 1-1.5 header group buy thread. IT has a lot of talk about the pre-cats and the guys who weren't able to get the y-pipe due to the differences in pipe length etc.
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Postby PhreakdOut » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:29 am

PXLpainter wrote:Yeah yeah - well aware of that thread... pretty much dashed our hopes of dual exhaust, etc...

Still never saw anything about those header-cans though... :roll:


To my knowledge, no one has started headers for the V6. The cans are pre-converters. (Sole job is to quickly raise the exhaust temperature so the main converter will "light off" quickly. Converters don't begin operation till internal temps of 450F and up.) This reduces off idle cold emissions.

The I4 Gen2 has successfully made headers to eliminate the pre-cat. (See Tacti's Gen2). However, removing the pre-cat will also increase the sound. (Just fore warning)

So do your mods in steps to achieve a sound level you like. The dual muffler system is still possible and I'd be glad to work locally with someone on the project. But I think it would be best to focus on headers first then work towards the rear.

I believe it may be possible to consolidate the 3.3L and 3.5L designs into one set of headers so long as they leave the outlet flange loose to rotate on a flare bead. Who ever would make this would need both sets of OE manifolds to confirm this.

If I were to start a design on the front pipe, I would do so WITH a new design on headers. They should try to make the design compatable with both the engines so it will cover Solara, Camry, Avalon, RX330 / RX350 (2WD only), Highlander (2WD only) and Sienna (2wd only). (Yes, there are people out there modifying each of those vehicles.)
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Postby crispone » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:39 am

PhreakdOut wrote:
PXLpainter wrote:Yeah yeah - well aware of that thread... pretty much dashed our hopes of dual exhaust, etc...

Still never saw anything about those header-cans though... :roll:


To my knowledge, no one has started headers for the V6. The cans are pre-converters. (Sole job is to quickly raise the exhaust temperature so the main converter will "light off" quickly. Converters don't begin operation till internal temps of 450F and up.) This reduces off idle cold emissions.

The I4 Gen2 has successfully made headers to eliminate the pre-cat. (See Tacti's Gen2). However, removing the pre-cat will also increase the sound. (Just fore warning)

So do your mods in steps to achieve a sound level you like. The dual muffler system is still possible and I'd be glad to work locally with someone on the project. But I think it would be best to focus on headers first then work towards the rear.

I believe it may be possible to consolidate the 3.3L and 3.5L designs into one set of headers so long as they leave the outlet flange loose to rotate on a flare bead. Who ever would make this would need both sets of OE manifolds to confirm this.

If I were to start a design on the front pipe, I would do so WITH a new design on headers. They should try to make the design compatable with both the engines so it will cover Solara, Camry, Avalon, RX330 / RX350 (2WD only), Highlander (2WD only) and Sienna (2wd only). (Yes, there are people out there modifying each of those vehicles.)



Hey, this is a very generous offer.... and logic behind it as well. (Just NOT enough of us Gen 2 Solaras alone to kick these in, I'm afraid.... based on other posts here.

How would the "other" applicable models get the info circulating? (I'm only involved in "THIS" forum, for the most part.... is someone putting more "feelers" out there for the other platforms? Should those of us that are interested "promote" this harder elsewhere too?)

I'd really like these headers......

Just some thoughts....


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Postby Duyquach » Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:20 am

Yea...honestly all i'm doing now performance wise is probably headers, fuel injection, and supercharger (working on it...my friend is gonna hook me up). But Supercharger let's not even talk about that yet, but i'm definately interested in headers. Y-pipe...i don't think i'll be needing it but *shrugs* never know if i want one
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Postby crispone » Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:35 am

Duyquach wrote:Yea...honestly all i'm doing now performance wise is probably headers, fuel injection, and supercharger (working on it...my friend is gonna hook me up). But Supercharger let's not even talk about that yet, but i'm definately interested in headers. Y-pipe...i don't think i'll be needing it but *shrugs* never know if i want one


....uh.....why, "Y"....on an "I"...... :o



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Postby PXLpainter » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:22 pm

PhreakdOut wrote:
PXLpainter wrote:Yeah yeah - well aware of that thread... pretty much dashed our hopes of dual exhaust, etc...

Still never saw anything about those header-cans though... :roll:


To my knowledge, no one has started headers for the V6. The cans are pre-converters. (Sole job is to quickly raise the exhaust temperature so the main converter will "light off" quickly. Converters don't begin operation till internal temps of 450F and up.) This reduces off idle cold emissions.

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So do your mods in steps to achieve a sound level you like. The dual muffler system is still possible and I'd be glad to work locally with someone on the project. But I think it would be best to focus on headers first then work towards the rear.

I believe it may be possible to consolidate the 3.3L and 3.5L designs into one set of headers so long as they leave the outlet flange loose to rotate on a flare bead. Who ever would make this would need both sets of OE manifolds to confirm this.

If I were to start a design on the front pipe, I would do so WITH a new design on headers. They should try to make the design compatable with both the engines so it will cover Solara, Camry, Avalon, RX330 / RX350 (2WD only), Highlander (2WD only) and Sienna (2wd only). (Yes, there are people out there modifying each of those vehicles.)


Thanks for your input Phreak - this info is greatly appreciated! I hope someone can put it to good use now... ;)
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Postby DatSRBoi » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:32 pm

Duyquach wrote:Yea...honestly all i'm doing now performance wise is probably headers, fuel injection, and supercharger (working on it...my friend is gonna hook me up). But Supercharger let's not even talk about that yet, but i'm definately interested in headers. Y-pipe...i don't think i'll be needing it but *shrugs* never know if i want one



Your talking about supercharging your car and you talking about maybe wanting a Y pipe?????



FYI.... Your a 4 banger..


Other then that I dont see allot of interests. Just issues. So we'll see.
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Postby PXLpainter » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:40 pm

^^ Issues preclude interest... Sure, its sounds good in theory, and it'd look really cool, but until proven to be effective in actual practice, then who can realistically commit to purchasing anything? :roll:

You're basically asking people to bankroll an experiment... which isn't a bad thing, just that most folks here don't have the cash to gamble with, that's all. ;)

Plus - you've stated that you need 15 buyers before even considering it - but you haven't even given us a ballpark figure on what it will cost - but you need a commitment to buy? :-?
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Postby DatSRBoi » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:54 pm

PXLpainter wrote:^^ Issues preclude interest... Sure, its sounds good in theory, and it'd look really cool, but until proven to be effective in actual practice, then who can realistically commit to purchasing anything? :roll:

You're basically asking people to bankroll an experiment... which isn't a bad thing, just that most folks here don't have the cash to gamble with, that's all. ;)

Plus - you've stated that you need 15 buyers before even considering it - but you haven't even given us a ballpark figure on what it will cost - but you need a commitment to buy? :-?



No. Cost will be almost the same as the Gen 1. You guys dont pay for the prototype. I try to put my time in to get a working one for you guys. Why do you think Im doing to weld a bunch of crap asss pipes in and call it ebay? Just like any company there is R&D. Im just seeing interest of 15 buyers IF it does come out that those 15 buyers WILL pay for it. It aight no crap asss overnight...

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Postby DatSRBoi » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:59 pm

Im not here to screw you guys over.. Im not flippin Xerd... But oh well. I got my answer. Thanks and have a nice day :)
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