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A CP-e tuning?

A CP-e tuning?

Postby GzNutz » Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:52 am

Could someone please tell me what type/brand of tuning software is used for the Tuneable CP-e Box? Thanks
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Postby akora12 » Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:20 am

It's their own software. I know it works with PC, not sure about MAC.
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Postby anwagbo3000 » Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:59 am

GzNuts, didnt your cpe come with a disc? is that not the software?, i know when they were tuning my cpe black box, they had to download software to do it and make sure your cable connection works with your computer, make sure its compatible, we went thru 3 hours of cable connectivity issues because the one provided by cpe was a piece of all-too-creative-crap
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Postby GzNutz » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:43 am

anwagbo3000 wrote:GzNuts, didnt your cpe come with a disc? is that not the software?, i know when they were tuning my cpe black box, they had to download software to do it and make sure your cable connection works with your computer, make sure its compatible, we went thru 3 hours of cable connectivity issues because the one provided by cpe was a piece of all-too-creative-crap


I purchased the untunable version used from Phil, aka. dude, back in Feb. It had the connectors for the preloaded black box but no disc. I'm trying to figure out if the mode of adjustment is similar to the R4 software I'm using with the URD MAF sensor calibrator. I switched to the URD unit because I know PXL was unable to obtain an effective(cel-less) tune with the tuneable box included with the CP-e and that he went with a split second unit. If the tuning software is similar then I could possibly get a few numbers off a working voltage/rpm chart to get the car running with the cp-e/jpp setup. I will post up some screenshots later of the R4 tuning software.
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Postby anwagbo3000 » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:28 am

^ok, as far as tuning or what your looking for, i cann try and help being that i live close to the cpe facility and the guys that tunes my car know the black box well as well, so what ever questions you have let me know and i can try and help you
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Postby GzNutz » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:43 pm

anwagbo3000 wrote:^ok, as far as tuning or what your looking for, i cann try and help being that i live close to the cpe facility and the guys that tunes my car know the black box well as well, so what ever questions you have let me know and i can try and help you

SWEET!! That would be awesome. Here is the screen shot of the R4 software displaying the fuel map. Stock setting is at 10 = no leaning or enriching of the fuel mixture. What I am looking for would be the numbers mapped on the CP-e units. This way I could have a running car and a starting point for tuning.
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Postby anwagbo3000 » Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:38 am

^will see what I can do
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Postby Down2TheC » Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:19 pm

GzNutz wrote:I purchased the untunable version used from Phil, aka. dude, back in Feb. It had the connectors for the preloaded black box but no disc. I'm trying to figure out if the mode of adjustment is similar to the R4 software I'm using with the URD MAF sensor calibrator. I switched to the URD unit because I know PXL was unable to obtain an effective(cel-less) tune with the tuneable box included with the CP-e and that he went with a split second unit. If the tuning software is similar then I could possibly get a few numbers off a working voltage/rpm chart to get the car running with the cp-e/jpp setup. I will post up some screenshots later of the R4 tuning software.

PXL didn't really try to tune using the cp-e. They put the split second in there instead of CPe chip and tried to tune. But they never got him CEL free. So you can toss the CPe map and chip and use SS, or swap the cpe chip for a tunable for $99 and do the same thing with their software. But I promise you, cp-e won't have any interest in helping you tune over their non-tunable. You'd have a better chance of getting a starting map from one of the tuneable guys if you're going to take the cpe product out of the loop.
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Postby GzNutz » Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:44 pm

Down2TheC wrote:PXL didn't really try to tune using the cp-e. They put the split second in there instead of CPe chip and tried to tune. But they never got him CEL free. So you can toss the CPe map and chip and use SS, or swap the cpe chip for a tunable for $99 and do the same thing with their software. But I promise you, cp-e won't have any interest in helping you tune over their non-tunable. You'd have a better chance of getting a starting map from one of the tuneable guys if you're going to take the cpe product out of the loop.


I am using the URD unit which is a SS box with the URD logo. The starting map of the CP-e is exactly what I am looking for. Thanks Down2TheC for your insight, now I just need to get my hands on that map.
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Postby JavaJoe_2 » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:51 pm

This is for the base Gen1 fuel map.

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As you can see they only cut fuel in the top rpm's. But, the problem was is if I zero'ed the map out, it wouldn't even idle or start. I think there is more to it than just the fuel map in order to get it to run. I tried to run it w/o the box and nothing.
Personally I think you would be further ahead with an Injen and the SS tuning box. You could sell the CP-e for the cost of both. But, it's your dollar....and R&D is VERY expensive.
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Postby Down2TheC » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:11 am

There's really no tuning until 3k.
Remember, it has to initially convert for the increased size of the pipe. Then the lean it out in the higher RPMs for more power. I've seen it run with no MAF connected and it can't get past 3k rpm. (hooked it up wrong once.)

Now you could put the SS in series with the cp-e chip. Then the initial input is the cp-e map and the SS does tweaks to that. Short of getting a tunable cp-e, that's the only way I see.
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Postby GzNutz » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:57 am

Thanks JavaJoe_2 for the map. This will defiantely help to point me in the right direction. If I am unable to get the CP-e running properly I will go the route of dumping the CP-e and making the Injen a CAI because it is easier to tune.

Down2TheC Thank you for your input. Using the units in series is a great idea. I will attempt this next.
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