CAMCON VVT-i Controller??

by **Sebas007** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:29 am

Just for your info...VVTi doesn't equal VTEC (put aside the i of VVT-i) because VVT-i just manage the intake cams but VTEC does both...intake and exhaust cams. Now they have VTEC-i...and Toyota now have dual VVT-i (that now manage intake and exhaust cams !!

) So we can tell that VTEC-i equal Dual VVT-i nowasdays.

I know it from somewhere else but again...a good reading.

Refering to 2GR-FE section (new 3.5L V6 Camry engine...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_GR_engine

by **Mandarinsolara** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:16 pm

please dont even compare vvt-i/vvtl-i with vtec/i-vtec.

vtec is a crossover of cam profiles, vvti is a great marketing scheme for people that have more money than sense.

by **crispone** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:15 pm

VVT-i --> Very Valuable Topic - (for people w/) intelligence... ?

- crisp :multi:

by **PXLpainter** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:27 pm

Nevermind Mandarinsolara - he's just pissed because he was stupid enough to get rid of his! But he'll tell you all about the cool "bottomless airbox" mod! LOL!

by **Sebas007** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:26 pm

A yeah his trademark !! hahaha

VTEC-i = Dual VVT-i youngster !!!

PXLpainter wrote:Nevermind Mandarinsolara - he's just pissed because he was stupid enough to get rid of his! But he'll tell you all about the cool "bottomless airbox" mod! LOL!

by **WSkids97** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:52 pm

Here's The wiki...

"VTEC (standing for Variable valve Timing and lift Electronic Control) is a system developed by Honda to improve the combustion efficiency of its internal combustion engines throughout the RPM range. This was the first system of its kind and eventually led to different types of variable valve timing and lift control systems that were later designed by other manufacturers (VVTL-i from Toyota, VarioCam Plus from Porsche, and so on). It was invented by Honda's chief engine designer Kenichi Nagahiro."

Either way for the old timers it is basically the computer advancing or retarding the timing based on certian conditions, i.e. knock sensor air temp. and such. It is recomended to remove such features in cases of NOS, High Compression, or High boost preasures to prevent the computer for opening to early or late for power loss or severe damage.

by **PXLpainter** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:37 pm

Geez - gimme a carb and some bailing wire dammit!

I remember when the most sophisticated tool in the drawer was a timing light - and there wasn't much a backyard mechanic couldn't do to mod his (or her) ride! Simplicity and raw power - something you can only see on TV anymore I'm afraid.

by **WSkids97** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:33 am

Another way the computers are taking over. Soon we'll all be Will Smith saying:

My NOS blew my intake cause of the god damned robots JOHN!

by **Mandarinsolara** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:04 am

please stop comparing the two, vtec is 1 crossover between 2 profiles, vvt-i is a constantly changing gizmo that doesnt work as good because it uses the same exact cam grind throughout the powerband

im just sad the solara never exploded bc of the air filter being out, you should sing songs about how reliable the 1mz was designed, not remind me of what i was willing to do to it that you are scared of (and somehow this makes you smarter and better, bc i couldnt force the fuccking thing to blow up) go jerk off on yourself if you have to

by **Sebas007** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:13 am

I said...if you take VVT-i minus the "i" it will be comparable to VTEC...

and again i-VTEC = dual VVT-i because both run dynamicly the intake and the exhaust valve...

Mandarinsolara wrote:please stop comparing the two, vtec is 1 crossover between 2 profiles, vvt-i is a constantly changing gizmo that doesnt work as good because it uses the same exact cam grind throughout the powerband

im just sad the solara never exploded bc of the air filter being out, you should sing songs about how reliable the 1mz was designed, not remind me of what i was willing to do to it that you are scared of (and somehow this makes you smarter and better, bc i couldnt force the fuccking thing to blow up) go jerk off on yourself if you have to

by **Down2TheC** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:30 am

There's a good thread pointing to a full analysis of the VTEC/VVT-i differences. I'll let you find it.

And the second letter in the 3MZ is the Air Flow meter mechanism.

M=MAF
V=VAFM (sadly I know this from my T4R... sux hard.)
Not sure about the G. Maybe it's not a consistent thing but I'm too lazy to google it now.

by **PXLpainter** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:22 pm

Mandarinsolara wrote:im just sad the solara never exploded bc of the air filter being out, you should sing songs about how reliable the 1mz was designed, not remind me of what i was willing to do to it that you are scared of (and somehow this makes you smarter and better, bc i couldnt force the fuccking thing to blow up) go jerk off on yourself if you have to

Nice there little dickweed - so now you're trying to get banned? :roll:

by **Mandarinsolara** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:47 pm

^not really, the thread is about camcons vvt-i controller, if you want to talk about something i did with my crappy solara a long time ago, then i suggest you ask me about it.

i dont see much intelligence or authority coming from you either so keep being a follower and you can let me know how it works out.

back to topic, id like to see that thread on the exact differences between the systems, i searched and could not find it

by **PXLpainter** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:42 pm

^^ Gee that's funny - since I'm the one who started the thread.

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