Carbon Fiber Parts (cf hood fenders and the like) Group Buy

[Phylum]

Just a side note... The CF hoods for the Gen2 that can currently be found are complete and utter garbage... They are flimsy, misshapen, and do not latch properly (without usage of hood pins).

If it's a couple hundred dollar difference for a substantial increase in quality, I'd consider that to be worth while instead of purchasing a POS generic and having to double down later on to replace it when it gets fluffied up...

What do you think about getting a custom made one from said company? You think they'd stick us with a 600$ bill for the same stuff you can get from eccmotors?

[Phylum]

Meh - not that interested in overpriced CF components personally... If I had that kind of $$ to blow, it would be for perfromance stuff like an overpriced Big Brake kit and custom Turbo or S/C!

Thanks for checking on it though - any information is appreciated!

me 2 - I'd take turbo or s/c over appearance. I'd be willing to spend a good amount of coin for something like that.

[krawzyazn]

Just a side note... The CF hoods for the Gen2 that can currently be found are complete and utter garbage... They are flimsy, misshapen, and do not latch properly (without usage of hood pins).

If it's a couple hundred dollar difference for a substantial increase in quality, I'd consider that to be worth while instead of purchasing a POS generic and having to double down later on to replace it when it gets fluffied up...

What do you think about getting a custom made one from said company? You think they'd stick us with a 600$ bill for the same stuff you can get from eccmotors?

Seibon makes quailty CF parts

[PXLpainter]

big diff in a couple hundred $$ for top quality (yet to be proven in this case) and droppin 2K for some door skins!

I agree that new parts to be developed costs cash - and most of the Honda-ricer-types drop thousands and thousands into their rides. But some of us also have a life - and bills, etc...

It's always going to be a numbers game. The greater the demand - the more units that sell - the cheapre the prices of the parts will be. That is unless there are generic parts or those that may fit several models... it just doesn't make economic sense to produce a handful of parts.

Who knows? Maybe when the Solara is discontinued, there will be a rush of people clammering to get them and fix them up and the demand will rise!

Yeah... right.

[Phylum]

you should see if he can make us a cf grille for the gen1/2. 600 seems high for a hood. doors?

They'll make us whatever we want as long as we have the 20-50 orders. Know some other 1/1.5/2 GEN solara owners who want a cf grille?

[PhreakdOut]

here in lies the problem with our cars..

yall bitch whine and complain about parts being made and blah blah blah about how little aftermarket this is for your car??? guess what yall bring it on yourselfs im SERIOUS BOUT THAT?? you wnat cheap schlock-schlock-schlock get it made in taiwan like the blackout headlights with poor fitment & bad aim..

do you really think the honda guys had it that easy?? i know several off the top of my head that have dropped 7k for a bolt on street legal kit.. most you beeyatches would say thats too much.. well there is your problem,

im tired of all the a-holes out there complaining about spending money on parts.. why the hell do u think i got that bumper??? it wasnt fawkin cheap and i paid up the ying yang for it.. but its quality..

u want cheap schlock-schlock-schlock get some aluminum tubing or some fawkin c/f tape and do your hood & trunk...

until someone steps they game up yall aint gon EVER HAVE ANY PARTS!!!

and thats the reality...

OK, I wouldn't have used the same "words." but I have to agree with this.

Sometimes you guys have to remember what it takes for a company to custom make parts. It's not cheap. A prototype exhaust system that we would make for Toyota can cost up to $5,000 a system. And that's if they order more than 50 systems.

There are no Star Trek replicators out there where you just push a button and out pops a part. Imagine how many people it takes to make the custom part. From design, to materials to production / prototyping to QC. You must pay for the hourly time EACH person puts in long before the first part comes out. Now if the company makes a mistake and the part doesn't fit, any profit made can be sucked up in trying to fix the problem.
I'm sure if there are any fixtures, molds or tools, that you wouldn't be willing to pay for them out right. Proto tooling for that $5K exhaust, probably around $100K.

These companies HAVE to make a profit. No, the $600 isn't all profit. The expenses are spread over the few that they sell. Honestly, I'd wager they make almost no profit on your initial order. What thay are hoping for is that you will pay for the engineering expenses, proto and development for a potential production application.

Give these guys a break. This is a much better deal than production prices for a front big brake kit. (And the only thing they develop is the relo bracket.) Oops, wrong soap box.

[trdkamuri51o]

^^ yeah i just got irritated.. however altima people are just as bad if not worse...

what it really does come down to is how much are you willing to pay to have a decent part.. if you knew how much the subaru guys had to beg to get parts before the wrx came here you might think twice.. 2-3k for coilover setups that most of us wouldnt wanna pay more than 1100.. nothing is free... if you really want parts your some is going to have to front that inital cost.. im in the same boat.. if i get the bumper copied, it will destroy my original but be for the better of the camry community.. but people are CHEAP...

TRD supra widebody kit = 11k
Veilside kits run 3-4k
wrx hoods (seibon etc) run 700+ for nice ones..
seibon carbon fiber doors EACH 1600

and yall think that 2k for a pair is expensive.. its ridiculous.....

[trdkamuri51o]

How'd I know you'd mention the bumper

im also curious jon are you stalking me.. i make an offer on something you gotta retort though u have nothing to do with it.. same with this post.. are u still having hard feelings that i wanted to talk to your ass on the phone??? or are you still bitchin up???

[JMSinMaryland]

Meh - not that interested in overpriced CF components personally... If I had that kind of $$ to blow, it would be for perfromance stuff like an overpriced Big Brake kit and custom Turbo or S/C!

Thanks for checking on it though - any information is appreciated!

me 2 - I'd take turbo or s/c over appearance. I'd be willing to spend a good amount of coin for something like that.

I agree, I myself would rather have a fast Camry than one that tries to look fast. Some people try to look fast because they don't have the cash to do any performance mods. In this part of the country we call them ricers. Jon.

[PXLpainter]

How'd I know you'd mention the bumper

im also curious jon are you stalking me.. i make an offer on something you gotta retort though u have nothing to do with it.. same with this post.. are u still having hard feelings that i wanted to talk to your donkey on the phone??? or are you still bitchin up???

Dood -

Looks like you've been here a long time - though no links to pics or CarDomain pages from your sig. ???

But you sure have a bag o' gripe you're spreadin' there... A lot of us may not know what personal beefs you have with others here - so we can't benefit from it either. So please ease-up the hate a bit...

[Phylum]

Email from Seibon:

"Im sorry to inform you that right now due to carbon fiber shortage we are
not taking on any projects.

Seibon International Inc.
20519 Walnut Dr. Unit C-5
Walnut, CA 91789

Tel: 909-444-5900
Fax: 909-444-5949
www.seibon.com"

[PXLpainter]

Email from Seibon:

"Im sorry to inform you that right now due to carbon fiber shortage we are
not taking on any projects.

Seibon International Inc.
20519 Walnut Dr. Unit C-5
Walnut, CA 91789

Tel: 909-444-5900
Fax: 909-444-5949
www.seibon.com"

Thanks for passing on the info!

[---CAMRAZY---]

Email from Seibon:

"Im sorry to inform you that right now due to carbon fiber shortage we are
not taking on any projects.

Seibon International Inc.
20519 Walnut Dr. Unit C-5
Walnut, CA 91789

Tel: 909-444-5900
Fax: 909-444-5949
www.seibon.com"

A lot of companies have said that there is a shortage of CF, so good luck with this one.

[camry_101]

This will NEVER happen lol trust me

Been down this road before my minimum buy was only 10 pcs.

lol Mark