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^^^^^^^^^ even shawn was like " you must have a mp112" once he saw those #s and BTW he was also going to bust out with some sheets until he saw the blower

Okay night night

pablo wrote:Does water or methanol injection increase the amount of air being pumped by the supercharger?

In effect, yes. Dumping as much water/meth through the SC as Greg is will have a huge effect on the outlet temps and hence density of the air. His delta T may be near zero.

JimKing wrote:Astounding! Besides stock internals h20/meth injections, what are the details of your setup?
Is this a straight 1mz or a 1mz/3mz hybrid?

3mz block, 1mz heads Jim. Only internal work is ARP headstuds, 9.8:1 headgaskets. Ported TRD blower with 1.9" pulley (12.3psi on dyno 13.5psi on street), custom add on idler plate extension for super belt wrap, TT MAF, and a fuel/timing controller.


-gabe

Congrats on the numbers. Ye Ye, we have all heard that Church's hub dyno tends to read higher( 7-8%*) than most Dynojets. That would put Greg at 340whp 397wtq* which is still the fastest Trd supercharged 1mz on a stock block. Either way good numbers, 400wtq is f-ing ridiculous. What I like more than the numbers, is that the Socal guys are consistently trying to push the envelope of our platform. When are you hitting the track again?

2 weeks

Was this with straight 91 octane, race gas, or some other mix of 91 + E85 or tolulene / xylene or some such? Stock knock sensors or relocated or aftermarket (eg. J&S)?
400 lbs of torque @ 3300rpm must be insane to drive.

JimKing wrote:

pablo wrote:Does water or methanol injection increase the amount of air being pumped by the supercharger?

In effect, yes. Dumping as much water/meth through the SC as Greg is will have a huge effect on the outlet temps and hence density of the air. His delta T may be near zero.

To be specific it's going to increase flow, by increasing compressor efficiency, and having a positive effect on pressure ratios, but it doesn't directly increase the amount of air going into the motor, just allows the supercharger to more efficiently do so.

I realize it's splitting hairs, but it's why you don't need to use different data for a supercharger using methanol injection. The flow is going to be very similar to the supercharger at a better pressure ratio.

Regardless, I'm sure it's a very fun car at the boost it is running.

Quick question for you, why am I boosting 12.3-13psi with a 10.5psi pulley this shouldnt be possible right but its happening. Do you live in socal?

Hey i posted the wrong boost level, im running a 1.9 pulley(10.5psi) not 11psi

Gregtrd wrote:Quick question for you, why am I boosting 12.3-13psi with a 10.5psi pulley this shouldnt be possible right but its happening. Do you live in socal?

Boost is a function of the air that isn't making it into the combustion chamber. So I'd assume you've reached some limit of flow, whether it's the cams, valves, exhaust, I don't know.

I don't live in Socal. I used to work for a company in Thousand Oaks so I was there fairly regularly. The closest thing I call home these days is Albuquerque, NM.

Great numbers... I wanna see a video to hear how loud these cars Scream, So Cal doing it Big.

Pablo all your graphs dont apply to my set up, just got off the phone with Douglas from magnuson, i talked to him about my dyno numbers and he said that they had a lotus max a mp62 sc at 368whp, those #s you posted would be the max with out cooling, he told me that eaton will tell you that max rpm on a mp62 is 16k safely but with proper cooling like myself, im able to max it out at 18k rpm with out a problem, one of the reasons they wont recommend going higher then 18k rpm is because of the bearing tolerance, with proper cooling and high performance bearings should be able to go higher then 18k rpm. Btw after doing the math with my set up im at 20,125rpm, so i need to try to keep it under 5600 on the tach, with 3mz heads, over size valves, cams, should be able to squeeze more ponies.

Here is my dyno sheet

heres one of the dyno vids, 13yr old fuxked up the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkmTyMFTpLc&feature=plcp