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just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:33 pm
by Gregtrd
Just got back from church dyno, albert, andy, and i dynoed today here the numbers
andy hit 290whq and 289 wtq. Andy are the #s i posted right?, albertrd hit 350wtq & 320whp, yours truly hit 427wtq and 366whp @10.5psi, will post vids later.
we need more people do performance! wheel fitment, and hids is okay but not
Interesting in my opinion.

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:05 am
by a94autocamry
In the beginning when my car was doing pulls it was around the 290's...the final #'s after numerous pulls was 284whp and 282wtq...not exactly at 300whp but should be around 300-ish for both horsepower and torque to the crank/flywheel...I'm very happy with the results. :bday:
Seems like headers will make a difference amongst other things to hit the magical 300whp/wtq #

Anyways, great #'s to Greg and Albert. Greg - ur car is fu#$ing loud at full WOT :drinking:

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:46 am
by thenewguy
Nice Greg! I agree moar performance!!

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:05 pm
by SolaraPete
You SoCal guys are getting awesome numbers!! Good job fellas!

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:29 pm
by Gregtrd
Btw stock internals.

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:46 pm
by GzNutz
:shocked!: :sweet:

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:37 pm
by pablo
Those numbers are a bit of a stretch. Looking at the flow data for the M62
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and the power consumption
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366whp is basically unbelievable from a M62 supercharger. The supercharger is off the map, but even if you were to take the numbers for 14k rpm at 440cfm(and at 11psi it will be less efficient than at 10psi), relate it directly to 21k rpm(1MZ crank pulley is 6.2", supercharger pulley I assume is 2", which makes for a supercharger spinning at 21k and change at the 1MZ's redline of 6800rpm) and say the supercharger is flowing 660cfm(of very hot air judging by the temperature graph):
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We don't have all the data necessary to do an accurate representation, but 660cfm(and that's assuming the supercharger flows as efficiently that far off the map), of very hot air, minus the 56 hp it's going to take to drive the supercharger that hard, minus drivetrain loss...

A common rule of thumb is 150 cfm is good for 100hp, so 660 cfm will be 435hp. Minus the 56hp to spin the supercharger, 379hp. That leaves all of 13hp for drivetrain loss.

Or look at it from the other direction, 56hp to drive the supercharger, even being very liberal with drivetrain loss of 15%, do you believe a M62 supercharger is capable of making 475 hp? 366 x 1.15 = 420 + 56 = 475 at the crank.

I've also seen a car lose 20% going from Churchs to a Dynojet(no, not same day, but that's still more variance than most dynos will see).

go go gadget flame suit :D

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:12 pm
by Gregtrd
Come to socal and I'll make u a believer, btw Im spraying 1250ml of water/meth, after 6 run my Sc is cold. You should go to the dyno with us next time, see for yourself. How much water/meth are they spraying in data you posted???

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:15 pm
by Gregtrd
Btw trd sc is not m62, its mp62.
When you go back to churchs talk to Shawn or Daniel about my camry.

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:32 pm
by albertrd
Gregtrd wrote:Btw trd sc is not m62, its mp62.
When you go back to churchs talk to Shawn or Daniel about my camry.

That's right. :shocked!: :crazyeyes: :lol: :lol:

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:55 pm
by pablo
MP62 flow data shows very similar numbers:
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I believe the car is fast, just not that the numbers accurately represent what the engine is making.

Just saw that the image is transparent so original is here: http://www.capa.com.au/eaton_mp62_4th.htm

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:57 pm
by JimKing
Astounding! Besides stock internals h20/meth injections, what are the details of your setup?
Is this a straight 1mz or a 1mz/3mz hybrid?

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:01 pm
by Gregtrd
Once again show me data with water/meth injection.

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:11 pm
by pablo
Does water or methanol injection increase the amount of air being pumped by the supercharger?

Re: just dynoed the beast again.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:51 pm
by Gregtrd
GO GO DYNO SHEETS
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