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1mz Turbo kit

1mz Turbo kit

Postby SmokingTiresV6 » Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:12 pm

Ok, so I have been talking with the guys at Boost Factory about making a turbo kit for the Camry. As it has come about, a good number of people with MR2's would like one for their 1mz drop-ins. So that is the engine for which the kit will be made.

I am looking to see who would be interested in the kit. I need a decent size group before I can go to them and have them start putting together a kit.

The price estimate is easily Under $3500. It will be intercooled and include an SMT6 unit for tuning. I can't get a better estimate until i go in and have them take a look at the engine bay, etc.



I need confirmed interest though. Only people who are willing to 100% drop the money on a kit. Camry owners (at least on TN) tend to hype and then flake out. I want this to go through :)
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Postby s15lara » Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:20 pm

i'd be super intrested. but first i'd like to know how much hp increase it would bring and the real price. let me know all the specs and details...
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Postby StockSolara » Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:59 pm

keep us updated i would be interested
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Postby Astro » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:16 pm

How much boost will you be able to run (safely)? Remember, we have problems running over 5.5 lbs. with the s/c without building the internals.
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Postby SmokingTiresV6 » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:28 pm

Astro wrote:How much boost will you be able to run (safely)? Remember, we have problems running over 5.5 lbs. with the s/c without building the internals.


5.5psi? How much hp gain is that?

It's not as much psi that effects how much your engine can handle, it's the amount of power you generate. Each turbo/supercharger displaces a different amount of air making the power increasement larger or smaller.

What part of the internals do you usually have problems with? Burning pistons? Because Toyotas often have weak fuel systems which would no be sufficent for boosting.l So you end up running lean and burning a piston. A high flow fuel pump and new injectors will solve that.
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Postby I4 to V6 Swap » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:13 am

A high flow pump and injectors will cause more damage. The fuel line from the filter to the rails is the bottle neck. Jim's fuel mod is needed to be able to deliver ample amounts of fuel.
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Postby Turbosolara » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:18 am

also keep in mind that you guys have returnless fuel system and limited room area. most of engine component might get cooked up with heat. Also 4psi turbo cannot make really much gain unless the turbo is very small.

however, the price sounds very attractive but i doubt it is possible. keep us update for part lists.
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Postby TRD_solaRa » Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:42 am

I think those guys who are gonna make the turbo kit for the 1MZ-FE should keep in touch with these guys on the forum. We know quite a bit already about the different aspects of our cars thru much R & D. I personally HOPE THIS GOES THRU though, as it would be quite beneficial for numerous 1MZ-FE owners and the makers of this turbo kit. shootz den guyz.
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Postby JoeB » Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:44 am

I'm not ready to do anything right now but I am very interested in watching the progress. Who knows, it would be great to some day strap a big turbo on in conjuntion with the sc and N20! That MR2 in Turbo & High Tech really showed gains by doing the sc and turbo combo. -JoeB
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Postby Astro » Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:35 am

^^^What about the Toyota Estima mini van with a 1mz and the twin turbo. I wish we had more info on that, it could be useful here. I'd really love to have a turbo also, but I'd really like to see it with an intercooler.
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Postby SmokingTiresV6 » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:05 pm

Well hit me with some info guys. Besides the fuel line from the filter needing to be larger, what other problems would we run into running a low boost on the car?

I'd be shooting for a 40-80hp gain with this kit. Of course you can always increase the boost later if you choose to.

And also, if there are any members in Minnesota that could loan their car to be the test car, that would be awesome :)
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Postby CASTRO » Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:43 pm

i'd be interested in the kit... then again i've seen this turbo idea come and go more times than i can count so keep us updated. :fadein:
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Postby SmokingTiresV6 » Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:37 pm

CASTRO wrote:i'd be interested in the kit... then again i've seen this turbo idea come and go more times than i can count so keep us updated. :fadein:


Yeah, I hear you. That's why I want to get this one through.

Ok, here are all the problems I have found that can and should be easy enough to work around while turboing.

The bottom end is perfectly fine for running up to 350whp (This infor Provided by Tony the Tiger). Safe amounts of power to run on a 5-speed would be 260whp-280whp. On an auto it would be more along the line of 240whp. These number leave room for some tuning because they are very loose (however heavy beating will damage an auto tranny)

The returnless fuel system is a problem, however can be easily fixed. All you have to do is tap the fuel pump and in stall a return. This will have to be dopne by the owners of the car and will not be included in the kit. However I am working on getting all the information on how to do so and will get it to you as soon as possible.

Another issue would be the stock knock sensors. I do not know how to get around that problem other than completely handicapping the sensors themselves by relocating them. However with the SMT6 you may/should be able to by pass the knock sensor. I will have to look into it's abilities more.

The head gaskets on earlier 1mz are composite and would give under high boost. However they should be fine with our base kit. But replacement is strongly suggested. The newer 1mz's have a steel head gasket and will be fine.



Most of the issues are easy enough to bypass. I am still in need of a test car in Minnesota to fit the kit. I will search myself locally, but I prefer someone that will actually be getting the kit. If you know anyone in the Twin Cities area that might be able to loan there car, or at least have it brough in for an estimate, that would speed things up a lot. Soon after I will be able to tell you what is included in the kit and the price.
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Postby I4 to V6 Swap » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:13 pm

A possible way to get return lines for the fuel rails is to use the 94-96 1mz fuel rails. They use a return line. The only problem is getting the line back to the tank. I was thinking about trying this, but haven't yet.
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Postby CASTRO » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:55 pm

hmmm, you think that by the time a final kit would be out, that you guys would be able to make a similar kit that was complete with everything needed or a list of things to be done for the earlier 1mz + auto like you said? I've got an early 97 1mz and wasnt sure if I had the metal gasket or not, plus if instrustions of things to look for during the install or tips were included that would help out a lot. I'm friends with guys at a shop who would be more than welcome to help me out with the installation of your kit when finished, but might need help on install or things that must be done.

Basically... if we give you the type of car/year/engine do you think you could tune your kits parts/list of to-do items for different combo of solara/camry cars?
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