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Why 1MZ TRD S/C cannot work on 3MZ ??

Postby ---CAMRAZY--- » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:55 pm

Do it, and let us know what happens.
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Postby dominoSLEV6 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:29 pm

You're more than likely going to have to work on getting a 1mz ecu no? As the head is what supports everything involved in the VVT-i and it's going to be completely different, would you not need a non vvt-i ecu (say 1MZ?) and I'm not sure how things liek drive by wire will work etc, I also don't know a lot about gen 2s, this is just my opinion and I'm no expert. In fact the better option may be to somehow mod the ecu as is if at all possible.. Ask Gabe how his hybrid project went, his name is trd4life on here and he should be around again now if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure how toyotas vvt-i system works, but is it purely mechanical? Either way, I'm no expert just going over the this and that motions.

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Postby PXLpainter » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:35 pm

Sebas007 wrote:Nobody else had any idea on the main topic ?

I have thoughts... lots of them. But I'm still bummed about my sway bar issue and the money I'm gonna have to spend to get it back together... and the CO's I still need to buy, etc...

I think for me, I need to resolve the weak tranny issue before I spend any more money on performance - especially F.I. of any kind.

Once we have the headers/Y-pipe tuned and ready for prime time, and get a real manual tranny swap on, THEN I think it's a good time to explore a S/C option. Until then, I think you're only asking for more complicated problems. ;)
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Postby Sebas007 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:05 pm

Appreciate your feedback !! Would have to verify what are the difference between 1MZ and 3MZ head especially on the intake manifold. The VVT-i is not mechanical but hydraulical (yeah Iknow I can be a smart ass haha). It's a brillant mix of both hydraulical and electronical.

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Postby DatSRBoi » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:22 pm

Sebas007 wrote:Nobody else had any idea on the main topic ?



i THINK It fits but will require slight modification to the EGR tubing and From where I was looking the intake body (sorry brain fart. dont remember the exact words) looks to be alittle bigger. Its also a tight fit in the back.. Thats what I remember seeing at the shop when I was using my friends tools to install some stuff on my car. I didnt quite install it on the gen 2 out there but i laid it to it and saw that. Also I think some of the hoses would have to be directed differently.


I made a post about this longgggg ago.
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Postby Biggi_e » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:34 pm

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Sebas007 wrote:Nobody else had any idea on the main topic ?



i THINK It fits but will require slight modification to the EGR tubing and From where I was looking the intake body (sorry brain fart. dont remember the exact words) looks to be alittle bigger. Its also a tight fit in the back.. Thats what I remember seeing at the shop when I was using my friends tools to install some stuff on my car. I didnt quite install it on the gen 2 out there but i laid it to it and saw that. Also I think some of the hoses would have to be directed differently.


I made a post about this longgggg ago.


i think i remember your post but it was a sighting of a "SC'd gen2"? anyways if you got the money to try and adventure some of this out for us sebas, by all means go right ahead :D
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Postby PXLpainter » Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:01 pm

You could always put a 3.4l V6 with S/C and a manual tranny from a 2006 Taco or Tundra and get the whole package - with no VVT-i to mess with and still be smog legal! ;)

Of course it's gonna cost you a bundle to do that, but it'd be a sweet setup! :up: :D
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Postby dominoSLEV6 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:15 pm

FWIW eliminationg the EGR shouldn't be a problem, but I couldn't tell you for sure. Should be able to block it off and use a resistor in placement to avoid a CEL, but I know this only to work for sure on OBD I cars i.e. my supra so check up before you get into it.

As for the VVT-i. I assumed it was hydraulic with a solenoid much like hondas vtec but it's been a while since I've read up in it. In this case I would be almost positive that you have to modify the ECu or get a new ECU, but then nthe issues as far as throttle cable vs. drive by wire, I don't know how that would all work I have no experience with it.

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Postby JMSinMaryland » Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:04 pm

And even if it did work where would you get the Superchargers from?
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Postby Sebas007 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:44 pm

Like must of you guys got it...former SG member or so...but I was just asking the question...need to understand what is the blocking point ! Where is the weak spot !
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Postby NRDriver » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:16 pm

i dont know muck about the blocks being the same but id bet the intake manifolds are different meaning it won fit unless you get a custom manifold or put a 1mz manifold on it which will probablly be alot of work and electronic crap
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