Running Solaras on ethanol (e85) works!

by **hskrsolara** » Sun May 04, 2008 7:17 pm

in addition, currently E-10 is decreasing our gas prices by about $.20/gallon. It doesn't seem like much, since its only saving 7.5% of $3.50+, but it actually is saving us a little bit of $.

by **funboy102** » Sun May 04, 2008 7:18 pm

RDKamikaze wrote:
Chinky420 wrote:but it's good to know that a SGer has done adequate research to be able to recommend specific products that have applications for our cars.

Thanks for that. I only posted up this thread to let everyone know that our cars CAN run on ethanol, not that I think "ethanol is the answer." To anyone who drew that conclusion, I'm sorry you thought that. And yes, I have done TONS of research about this stuff.

I do NOT think ethanol is the answer. Anyone who is slightly in with their mind would not say that either. There is NOT WAY the world can replace gasoline completely. I'm just saying that ethanol is a good choice to run ALONG SIDE with gasoline. Competition is key, here. I'm not saying "Run gasoline to the ground!" I'm just saying "Hey look, another great source to run your car on! Maybe people should start trying this stuff a little more often."

Feel free to keep debating and using technicalities and stuff like that, it's interesting to catch everyone's viewpoint. But I just want everyone to know the reason why I posted this thread. It was NOT to argue ethanol is te answer (because it's not), but yet to show that I believe it to be safe and reliable to our cars and many other cars out there. This is a topic that people should look into for themselves and NOT have other people arguing about it make their mind for them. Just go online and do 100+hrs of research like I have (yes, I really have done that much) and draw your own conclusion. I've seen everything from the good to the bad.

Enjoy!

Hey, think you can post your research paper? I think some of us would actually read it, me included.

by **MCOjerry** » Sun May 04, 2008 7:45 pm

Thanks for the info hskr.

Do you know if there is data on the price savings of the 10% blend?

It's just started to come to FL, and I have not seen a drop in prices, only a steady increase. If there is a savings, you'd think that there would have been a drop before any increases. Gas just keeps rising around here, it's up to almost $3.60/gal for 87 octane.

Also, I don't complain about gas prices. I'm glad I'm not paying what many other countries do. I just try to conserve to keep costs the same or only slightly more. I have to drive.

by **hskrsolara** » Sun May 04, 2008 8:32 pm

Jerry, I didn't mean to single you out...I was referring more to the general population that constantly complain about prices without studying the economics surrounding the issue. Sorry if that statement was interpreted that way. Let me try to dig up the data on price...its reflected more as a slowed rate of increase than a definite price cut. Eventhough that seems so unlikely with current oil prices, it is true. I think the data came out of a Progressive Farmer publication...I will try to find it online.

by **rewmomi** » Sun May 04, 2008 9:32 pm

okay i did not read every comment but i went to the site and it said 425 not 250 for the kit?

by **funboy102** » Sun May 04, 2008 10:05 pm

looking at that site... check this out, http://www.change2e85.com/servlet/Detail?no=167
the Pulstar Pulse Spark Plug, sounds really gimicky, you guys think it's real? At $25 a plug, that's $150 for us V6 guys. But you get more power and torque

by **SdeA** » Sun May 04, 2008 10:35 pm

funboy102 wrote:looking at that site... check this out, http://www.change2e85.com/servlet/Detail?no=167
the Pulstar Pulse Spark Plug, sounds really gimicky, you guys think it's real? At $25 a plug, that's $150 for us V6 guys. But you get more power and torque

This should help you answer the question

http://solaraguy.com/viewtopic.php?t=39 ... t=pulstars
http://solaraguy.com/viewtopic.php?t=39 ... t=pulstars

by **RDKamikaze** » Sun May 04, 2008 11:42 pm

rewmomi wrote:okay i did not read every comment but i went to the site and it said 425 not 250 for the kit?

You didn't read the whole thing. I wrote in the first post that I bought it on sale, as in the cheaper kits section. They now have cold start technology so all the other kits w/out it are a lot cheaper. And I have the 4cyl version not 6.

by **dvdchris45** » Mon May 05, 2008 12:48 am

it sounds like a good idea but the closest ethanol station is in the heart of LA

Conserv Fuel
11699 San Vicente Blvd.
Los Angeles , CA 90049
310-571-0039

theres a station in Oceanside and Carlsbad too... but im wondering all those flexifuel chevy tahoes fill up at the same station?

by **kingkakyle** » Mon May 05, 2008 1:12 am

dvdchris45 wrote:it sounds like a good idea but the closest ethanol station is in the heart of LA

Conserv Fuel
11699 San Vicente Blvd.
Los Angeles , CA 90049
310-571-0039

theres a station in Oceanside and Carlsbad too... but im wondering all those flexifuel chevy tahoes fill up at the same station?

wow thats really close to me....i didn't even know there was one nearby =P

by **Black Bob** » Mon May 05, 2008 9:58 am

All I know is that some countries are already converting more and more agave plantations to corn which is spiking the rise in tequila here! I, as an alcoholic, personally find that more of a concern than fuel.

By the way, happy Cinco de Mayo everybody

by **Sebas007** » Mon May 05, 2008 10:39 am

What you have to know is that the ethanol from corn pollute more or same than normal fuel (if you mix how it's made and the usage) because it asks more energy to take it out of the fields and to transform. There is a no gain environment wise. Cell ethanol made by dead wood will be a great thing...again corn ethanol is really not the answer to the real problem...but can be really a great things for some already rich people.

by **gnegroni** » Mon May 05, 2008 11:28 am

dvdchris45 wrote:it sounds like a good idea but the closest ethanol station is in the heart of LA

Conserv Fuel
11699 San Vicente Blvd.
Los Angeles , CA 90049
310-571-0039

theres a station in Oceanside and Carlsbad too... but im wondering all those flexifuel chevy tahoes fill up at the same station?

Still, keep in mind that their webpage has the following warning:
Please note: not legal for sale or use in California on any certified or controlled vehicles/engines..

by **gnegroni** » Mon May 05, 2008 11:33 am

A little researching led me to believe that not only ethanol takes a lot to manufacture, but the energy content of a gallon of ethanol is less than the energy content of gallon of gas. That is the reason of the diminished in MPG (5-20%) some people experience, which in principle also applies to bio-diesel.

Also, ethanol has a very high octane level but unless an engine is specifically designed to take advantage of those levels, there wouldn't be much use for it (if your car is heavily modified, then you would run ethanol off the pump, instead of 105 race gas!).

All said, thanks for the post Kami and everybody's inputs. Makes good reading!

by **rewmomi** » Mon May 05, 2008 3:56 pm

SdeA wrote:
funboy102 wrote:looking at that site... check this out, http://www.change2e85.com/servlet/Detail?no=167
the Pulstar Pulse Spark Plug, sounds really gimicky, you guys think it's real? At $25 a plug, that's $150 for us V6 guys. But you get more power and torque

This should help you answer the question

http://solaraguy.com/viewtopic.php?t=39 ... t=pulstars
http://solaraguy.com/viewtopic.php?t=39 ... t=pulstars

no its just a gimic I read in the latest siphon mag that it only addslike 1 hp per plug which sucks

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