IF I CRISPSOLD the car...

[onefiend]

07-08 TL Type-S > Gen2 Solara

There are a lot of miles on the TL for an 07, but it's the Type-S, if it's a manual, even better. I would get rid of the Solara if it was me. Even if it was just a regular base 04-08 TL, I'd still get rid of the Solara.

You should jump on this deal, Crisp.

Yup. The prior president of our company also had the '01 (or '02?) Type-S and later '04 Type-S and I probably put 40k of the miles on the '04 with him or just using his car. I drove the PISS out of that thing and it really did haul some ass! (A LOT of torque steer when pushed... but very pleasing motor and good tranny, too... but the '04's brakes were lame and warped... but the '07 has MUCH better one's on it!)

They never made a Type-S for the 04 model (Gen 2's had a Type-S for 02-03 only), and the early Gen TL's from 1998-2006 had major tranny problems. The Gen 3.5 TL tranny's were improved for the 2007 models.

Interestingly, at the same time... my INTERIOR fit-n-finish (while not as HIGH a grade in some materials) is BETTER than the fit-n-finish of the Acura TL! (TSX is better than TL... but manufactured in Saitama Honda plant, not Marysville Ohio... and the TSX is superb in fit-n-finish...)

ALSO, my 'lara has LESS wind noise around the windshield than the TL at speed. Very interesting...


-crisp

I disagree, the Gen 3-3.5 TL has a better interior than a TSX, better NAV, better leather seats and better sounding stereo system too.

[crispone]

07-08 TL Type-S > Gen2 Solara

There are a lot of miles on the TL for an 07, but it's the Type-S, if it's a manual, even better. I would get rid of the Solara if it was me. Even if it was just a regular base 04-08 TL, I'd still get rid of the Solara.

You should jump on this deal, Crisp.

Yup. The prior president of our company also had the '01 (or '02?) Type-S and later '04 Type-S and I probably put 40k of the miles on the '04 with him or just using his car. I drove the PISS out of that thing and it really did haul some ass! (A LOT of torque steer when pushed... but very pleasing motor and good tranny, too... but the '04's brakes were lame and warped... but the '07 has MUCH better one's on it!)

They never made a Type-S for the 04 model (Gen 2's had a Type-S for 02-03 only), and the early Gen TL's from 1998-2006 had major tranny problems. The Gen 3.5 TL tranny's were improved for the 2007 models.


You are right about the "Type-S" in '04. I remember now I was asked to spec. out the Type-S (again, like the prior lease car) and it was not an option. And the tranny in the '04 did give us trouble. The '07 was the great tranny.

Interestingly, at the same time... my INTERIOR fit-n-finish (while not as HIGH a grade in some materials) is BETTER than the fit-n-finish of the Acura TL! (TSX is better than TL... but manufactured in Saitama Honda plant, not Marysville Ohio... and the TSX is superb in fit-n-finish...)

ALSO, my 'lara has LESS wind noise around the windshield than the TL at speed. Very interesting...


-crisp

I disagree, the Gen 3-3.5 TL has a better interior than a TSX, better NAV, better leather seats and better sounding stereo system too.

I would stand by my statements on the '04 to '04 comparison. (My Solara fit-n-finish with the '04 TL... but I would specify INTERIOR and not preference the 'lara on the exterior fit-n-finish. I haven't directly compared the later models for fit-n-finish.


Perhaps our opinions are not so far apart when quantified better. Your knowledge and opinions exceed my generalities of my initial comparison.


One other BIG concern for me is that the tires, window motor repair (passenger became "intermittent") and 60k mile service + a bumper replacement on the rear from a small crack in it where it bumped another bumper, set of tires, A/C recharge and passenger side control repair cost over $4k at the STEALERSHIP. A LOT of maintenance/repair cost for such a young car! And WAY over what a Solara costs, in my opinion!


It's those reliability/issues/maint. costs down the road that also concern me on the TL. My 'lara has just been bullet proof and maintenance free.

The '04 TL was taken in to the dealership on warranty 4 or 5 times in the 36 month lease period. That's a bit much in my opinion. The '07 has just been taken in the once on the company's dime. I would have thought the window and A/C issue would have been "warranted", and the other costs (from the dealership) were really high, too.


I'm almost convincing myself to keep the 'lara!


Additional factor, I'd HAVE to both sell the 'lara and buy the TL in a very carefully coordinated transaction, as I have to have that daily driver for some of my long trips... where I don't want to take the 4x4 (which is getting rough) and my Supra is NOT a winter car, and still in the shop for paint at the moment.



-crisp

[onefiend]

I would stand by my statements on the '04 to '04 comparison. (My Solara fit-n-finish with the '04 TL... but I would specify INTERIOR and not preference the 'lara on the exterior fit-n-finish. I haven't directly compared the later models for fit-n-finish.

I would have to say the 07-08 TL's have a really nice interior. The new steering wheel, better quality leather, and some minor enhancements on the dash and revised center stack and instrument panels does improve it over the 04-06 models.

One other BIG concern for me is that the tires, window motor repair (passenger became "intermittent") and 60k mile service + a bumper replacement on the rear from a small crack in it where it bumped another bumper, set of tires, A/C recharge and passenger side control repair cost over $4k at the STEALERSHIP. A LOT of maintenance/repair cost for such a young car! And WAY over what a Solara costs, in my opinion!

It's those reliability/issues/maint. costs down the road that also concern me on the TL. My 'lara has just been bullet proof and maintenance free.

Yeah, that's not good. Performance tires on the TL will last around 20-25K miles. A/C shouldn't need to be recharged unless the system has a leak. The bumper repairs and passenger side control repair make me wary about buying it.

The '04 TL was taken in to the dealership on warranty 4 or 5 times in the 36 month lease period. That's a bit much in my opinion. The '07 has just been taken in the once on the company's dime. I would have thought the window and A/C issue would have been "warranted", and the other costs (from the dealership) were really high, too.

There's also a recent recall for 04-08 TL's on a power steering hose that may leak and cause a fire. You should look into that.

I'm almost convincing myself to keep the 'lara!

If the TL-S looks clean and drives great, just pull the trigger and get it

Additional factor, I'd HAVE to both sell the 'lara and buy the TL in a very carefully coordinated transaction, as I have to have that daily driver for some of my long trips... where I don't want to take the 4x4 (which is getting rough) and my Supra is NOT a winter car, and still in the shop for paint at the moment.

You can do it, make it happen

[wkbrdr91]

If ever you sell your solara, let me know. I might be interested in buying your turbo set-up off you... your not gonna get any extra money from it if you sell/trade it in with your car (installed)

[crispone]

If ever you sell your solara, let me know. I might be interested in buying your turbo set-up off you... your not gonna get any extra money from it if you sell/trade it in with your car (installed)

?


No turbo in my 'lara... just the Supra. Were you meaning me?




-crisp

[wkbrdr91]

If ever you sell your solara, let me know. I might be interested in buying your turbo set-up off you... your not gonna get any extra money from it if you sell/trade it in with your car (installed)

?


No turbo in my 'lara... just the Supra. Were you meaning me?




-crisp

Ya, i swear you were turbocharged haha. Do you have a supercharger in it or something??

[crispone]

If ever you sell your solara, let me know. I might be interested in buying your turbo set-up off you... your not gonna get any extra money from it if you sell/trade it in with your car (installed)

?


No turbo in my 'lara... just the Supra. Were you meaning me?




-crisp

Ya, i swear you were turbocharged haha. Do you have a supercharger in it or something??

No... but I am capable of making a YUGO sound like it's got some grunt if I set my mind to it... so perhaps you read a post wherein I compared my Solara to a pavement clawing haunches launching forward thrusting stallion on torque-steering rubber roasting frenzy off the line next to some bone-head with a Cavalier complex... DOH!



...oh wait a minute... that WAS in my Supra!



-crisp

[epocsirhc]

No... but I am capable of making a YUGO sound like it's got some grunt if I set my mind to it... so perhaps you read a post wherein I compared my Solara to a pavement clawing haunches launching forward thrusting stallion on torque-steering rubber roasting frenzy off the line next to some bone-head with a Cavalier complex... DOH!



...oh wait a minute... that WAS in my Supra!





-crisp [/quote]

-thats funny

[aleki2424]

The gunmetal rims on the S look really nice, and personally find both the TSX and the TL to be equally exciting, but since we're talking about the TL , the inerior space is a plus.
I wonder if they have transmission problems like other hondas did.
Side note, the doppler feature on the nav of the new TL's is pretty unique, especially if you travel alot.
Anyway, glad the supra is still going to be a keeper crisp. It would be a disaster to not have any more of your ten page crisp build posts on your dash light diys lol

[crispone]

Anyway, glad the supra is still going to be a keeper crisp. It would be a disaster to not have any more of your ten page crisp build posts on your dash light diys lol

DEFINITELY some more "bells and whistles" (accentuated by LIGHTS!) to come on the Supra!




-crisp

[GzNutz]

By selling the lara and picking up the acura would you be able to net any cash? Or are you going to have to sell tha lara and add some pocket change to get the acura? Just wondering because any pennies spent on the TL are pennies taken away from the Supra.

[99BlackSandv6]

TL is probably a good step up. However the diecision is yours.
I support you either way. The TL is nice, your Solara is nice too.

[Jakecallun20]

I say get it, sounds like an amazing deal for a very nice Acura

(and then I won't be the only guy who traded his Solara for a Hon-duh )

[Aotoyota]

I would get one in a heartbeat especially if you can get a good deal on the solara.

dont know this guy, but there is potential for it too look this clean!

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3368549

[onefiend]

dont know this guy, but there is potential for it too look this clean!

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3368549

there is no way this dude is pushin 379hp

a stock 07-08 TL Type-S looks better than that car.