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Throttle Lag TSB is out

Postby cablemn » Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:54 am

i think they tell you about the octane thing just to have another excuse ready. Its like they give themselves another way out because they know most people like to save the 10 to 20 cents a gallon so they use regular.
The difference in performance is negligible unless youre racing and need to win by a tenth of a second. At some point you have to use youre common sense. All i know is i can now get on the highway without crappin my pants from fright not knowing when the car is gonna finally catch up with itself. I might actually get the trd exhaust now to hear the sweet rpm whine instead of the bogged down in the wrong gear sound im used to.
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Postby slingshot » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:01 pm

I think you're right about the octane. Isn't it nice getting power on demand? Guess I'll be driving around with a heavier foot now and therefore need the cheaper gas even more. :lol:
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Postby dvdchris45 » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:05 pm

What type of printout should I take to the dealership? I called them and they were clueless.
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Postby slingshot » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:08 pm

Reread my posting five posts up from yours. Printout TC003-05 (link in the other thread about this subject). Tell them to look up TC006-05 for the Solara that came out June 21. Tell them you are sick of hesitation and want that TSB done. Be prepared for at least a two hour timeframe.
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Re: is it covered by the extended powertrain warranty

Postby Jackass-Jeff » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:36 pm

angelo wrote:I have a 04 V6 SLE, but I am out of the initial bumper-to-bumper warranty. Should the TSB be covered under the powertrain warranty?


if you have evidence you've complained about it before on a dealer invoice, then they might help you out. Otherwise, call Toyota customer satisfaction and they will consider to warrant it ASSUMING you serviced exclusively at a dealership.
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Postby LunarMistGray » Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:25 pm

slingshot,cablemn
I use high octane gas not because I'm trying to get more power or because it gives you more power. I use it because the ECM in the car was tuned for it. Can you use lower octane? Yes. Will it hurt the car? Probably not, but the computer in the car may not perform as efficiently as it should.


The following URL talks about high octane gas?
http://www.chevron.com/products/prodser ... tane.shtml
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Postby theprodigy79 » Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:59 pm

I got the flash done today and there is an incredible difference, well worth it! As stated throught this thread, the best way to approach this is to set up an appointment (say that you have been experiencing a delay in shifting that you are concerned about, and that you did a bit of research and found the TSB that explained the situation and how to solve it). Print off the Camry TSB (TC003-05), bring it with you and refer them to TC006-05, which is the Solara version of the TSB (I can't seem to find the Solara version on the web yet, however they have access to it at the dealership). It took around an hour and a half, and the difference is simply amazing. *NOTE* Make sure to switch your vaccuum hoses back to normal if you have been using docjohn's trick.

On a similar note, has anyone who's had this flash done switched back to the docjohn trick? Anything noticable?
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Postby MikeATL » Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:25 am

This might be a stupid question, but does this TSB apply to the 2005s too? I know my dealer is going to try everything to get out of this and I dont wanna leave him any excuses. If someone can find a link to the actual TSB that would be awesome too.

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Postby slingshot » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:02 pm

Yes it applies to 2005's too and probably 2006's. Don't let the dealer weasel out of it. I had my printout and complained about hesitation. My dealership gave me no problems at all once they saw the TSB on their computer.
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Postby Jackass-Jeff » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:27 pm

PhreakdOut wrote:I was scheduled to go in today but changed it to next Monday. I gave them TC006-05. Does anyone have copies of both 006 and 007?

I'd like to carry it in since the service manager looked a little lost when I described the issue.


TC007-04: Manual Transmission Shift Lever Loose... 05 Camry/Solara, Corolla (5/6MT), Scion tC

TC006-05: 04-05 Solara (3MZ 5AT) ECM Calibration: Shft Feeling Enhancement

That's the list of TC technical service bulletins.

PhreakdOut, don't you have access to TIS? =D
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Postby DocJohn » Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:56 am

I found an e-copy of TSB Number TC003-05; ECM Calibration: Shift Feeling Enhancement 04-05 Camry (3MZ-FE 5-Speed A/T) I imagine that TC006-05 for the Solara is almost identical.

You can view it at:
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/Toyota/11177 ... index.html
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Postby theprodigy79 » Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:35 am

TC006-05 is identical to TC003-05 with the acceptions of the applicable #s and the word "Camry" switched to "Solara". It should not be an issue if you print / take in 003 in place and refer them to 006 on their system. Just make sure you make it clear that you aren't just having it done because you found it, instead focus on the fact that the problem was frustrating you so you looked into it (they will clearly state that they do not perform TSBs if there hasn't been a problem, or just because it is available).

Be careful if you're used to having a heavy foot to compensate for the lag... the ECM flash makes all the difference in the world. When I was pulling out of the Toyota lot I gave it some gas (from a moderate coast, prolly 7-10mph) to get in front of a car and the tires spun (I didn't hammer it). You could do that before, but it's a whole lot easier now...

Also, I reinstated the vaccuum trick and still feel a tad of a difference using it. Pretty cool!

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Postby PhreakdOut » Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:10 pm

I just had the TSB done this week. I too reversed the "DocJohn" trick before taking it in. It really moves a whole lot better now.

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Postby CHRIS CLUTCH » Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:47 pm

Just called Toyota they said haven't heard of it but will check. They said might have to do a VIN check to see if I qualify...don't think so, they're fixing it wether they want to or not...Funny how we know but they don't... :evil:
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Postby slingshot » Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:51 pm

CHRIS CLUTCH wrote:Just called Toyota they said haven't heard of it but will check. They said might have to do a VIN check to see if I qualify...don't think so, they're fixing it wether they want to or not...Funny how we know but they don't... :evil:


My dealership wrote down my VIN and thought they had to check it. Ends up they didn't even check it when they read the TSB. I complained about lag and they saw I wasn't going to give up I guess. Don't let a VIN check stop them from doing it. Keep pressing them if they say no.
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