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Postby Camry Racing » Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:02 pm

Okay I'm currently looking to get the E153 tranny for my camry to do 5speed swap I got a call of a junky yard and they told that if the 3SGTE tranny works for my V6 the 5sfe should too and here is my dilema it is possible that the 5SFE tranny will work with my 1mz btw they asked 450$ for the tranny
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Postby ozone » Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:08 pm

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Postby Eye8Pussies » Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:09 pm

yes it'll work, but you'll have to mix an match your flywheel and clutch setup, just as the e153 works on the 5fse


just, you'll probably tear through the tranny with the torque from the the 1mz eventually. and if you ever think about adding more power one way or another, it'll definitely tear your tranny apart
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Postby NRDriver » Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:36 pm

id imagine that the e153 will hand more torque /horsepower. hense the reason its used on the v6. id get the e153
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Postby Camry Racing » Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:39 pm

Eye8Pussies wrote:yes it'll work, but you'll have to mix an match your flywheel and clutch setup, just as the e153 works on the 5fse


just, you'll probably tear through the tranny with the torque from the the 1mz eventually. and if you ever think about adding more power one way or another, it'll definitely tear your tranny apart


OK thanks I was just waiting for you to answer my Q

So I'm gonna call the guy and tell him to try to get me the E153 instead of the S53 cause I will add more power then so I will definitely break the S53 like my Automatic one that slips a lot
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Postby Camry Racing » Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:48 pm

called the guy Will be Getting the E153 from a MR2
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Postby Eye8Pussies » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:16 pm

it'll work at least!

just don't plan on really going boost though....or expecting good gas mileage....gear ratios are shorter, so you're going to do a lot of shifter...

as it is, I find the gearing on the e153 too short on my car (due to the boost of course), and wish that I had the gearing of the e53 instead, but we can't all be too picky sometimes.

the mr2 e153 is perfect for autocrossing!
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Postby Camry Racing » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:31 pm

Eye8Pussies wrote:it'll work at least!

just don't plan on really going boost though....or expecting good gas mileage....gear ratios are shorter, so you're going to do a lot of shifter...

as it is, I find the gearing on the e153 too short on my car (due to the boost of course), and wish that I had the gearing of the e53 instead, but we can't all be too picky sometimes.

the mr2 e153 is perfect for autocrossing!


sighs I'm planning to be turbo in the future but getting a E153 from a camry or a solara isnt easy here so it is the S53 or the E153 from a MR2 so obviously will get E153.

Another Q here I will use Fidanza flywheel the one of the solara and a ACT stage 2 Clutch for solara is that okay or I have to look those for a Mr2 too I'm confused right now
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Postby Eye8Pussies » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:57 pm

you can use the same ones- they should have the same part numbers. except, if I remember correctly, for the fidanza flywheel, they have two different ones- both fit, but the mr2 one is 1lb lighter I think it was
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Postby Camry Racing » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:07 pm

Eye8Pussies wrote:you can use the same ones- they should have the same part numbers. except, if I remember correctly, for the fidanza flywheel, they have two different ones- both fit, but the mr2 one is 1lb lighter I think it was


thanks again any other thing that I should know?
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Postby ozone » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:21 am

You can mate virtually any transmission to any engine give enough know-how and money, but it is for all the reasons stated above, I said "no." I just wanted to clarify. Plus I didn't think that the bell housing from the S series matches up to the 1mzfe. Has anyone verified that?

I did check the gear ratios and they are not too bad, which surprises me since the S53 is designed for a 4 cylinder, which usually revs higher than a six and has less torque and it is indeed geared for higher revs, but it isn't too far off from the E153.
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Postby trd4life » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:45 am

You should try to get a camry trans ,the mr2 turbo trans is not a direct bolt on for the camry/solara. the casing is a little different shifter linkage is totally different.
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Postby Camry Racing » Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:25 am

trd4life wrote:You should try to get a camry trans ,the mr2 turbo trans is not a direct bolt on for the camry/solara. the casing is a little different shifter linkage is totally different.


okay A little lost here shifter linkages is ? dont know how is that called in spanish
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Postby Eye8Pussies » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:06 am

ozone wrote:You can mate virtually any transmission to any engine give enough know-how and money, but it is for all the reasons stated above, I said "no." I just wanted to clarify. Plus I didn't think that the bell housing from the S series matches up to the 1mzfe. Has anyone verified that?

I did check the gear ratios and they are not too bad, which surprises me since the S53 is designed for a 4 cylinder, which usually revs higher than a six and has less torque and it is indeed geared for higher revs, but it isn't too far off from the E153.



yes, the bellhousing is reported to match up just fine.

as for the gear ratios- how would you say that it's geared for higher revs? It's obvious that it's geared for lower torque and powerband with the lower final gear ratio.




as for the shift linkage, I'd listen to gabe....I had never really thought about that, but I had presumed that it was just the shifter design that was really different and moves the linkage in a different way.

see if your guy can find a camry e153 and keep things simple, or even an e53 if need be. if he's an importer, he'll be able to find one, just might take a bit of time.
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Postby ozone » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:30 pm

Sorry, I shouldn't have phrased it that way. What I meant was that when you shift into a gear, the overall gear ratio will be higher with the S53 transmission than it would be with the E153 transmission, which means that for a given speed, the engine will be at a higher RPM. This means the car should accelerate a little better in those gears that are higher, but he would have to shift sooner and fuel economy would suffer a bit.

I didn't mention the shift linkage because I thought it would be obvious when you move the transmission from the back to the front, that the link between the gear shifter and transmission would have to change.

The modification to change this is not hard and can be found online. If I find it again I will post the link. But I agree that finding an E153 from a Solara or a Camry would be the best option since they are meant to go with that engine.
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