before i order an intake...

[crispone]

I think weve seen dyno numbers on the cpe, its deff. around 15hp for a gen1....redgen1 comes to mind first because hes local to me, he dynod w/ the cpe...

Regardless of absolute numbers, GAIN is GAIN. On the same dyno back-to-back, the above translates into a percentage of performance gain. That number is real, and every stab at the throttle will validate it with absolution every time you turn the key.


Case closed.




-crisp

[crispone]

Another important point... it's NOT just about the GAIN alone... but WHERE do you achieve the gain? In BOTH curves, you get the SAME peak power (or relative power) at various RPM points (such as absolute peaks comparison point) and the addition of the CP-e mod nets the SAME HP or TORQUE as the stock curve at 500~750 RPM EARLIER in the motors spool! THAT'S what you FEEL and notice as response!


Then consider that from having the SAME power as a stock 'lara nearly 1000 rpm earlier in the rev band, and CONTINUE to climb at the same gain/rate for the duration of the curve...





Anyway... something like that...



-crisp

[jetbtkng]

where are the dyno #'s for injen to compare with those charts, if thats only cpe then posting those #'s are a mute point, as this was a comparision dicussion of intakes.................

[99V6solaraSE]

i know its already been said a lot...

But ive had both injen and cp-e. And I have to say it wasn't even CLOSE at all.. The cp-e by far felt like it had the better gains and was totally worth it to me.

anyone have dyno numbers from an auto NA with an injen?

[crispone]

where are the dyno #'s for injen to compare with those charts, if thats only cpe then posting those #'s are a mute point, as this was a comparision dicussion of intakes.................

You aren't reading very closely. I've been quantifying my statements as RELATIVE to the improvement that can be expected IN THE CASE OF THE CP-E!


I have not ONCE made a comparison between the two... simply stated my opinion that the CP-e IS a good performance upgrade, and now posted (albeit someone elses... the manufacturer, in this case) EMPIRICAL evidence to support my butt-sense from driving my car with and without it.



I stand by all my statements.




-crisp

[yaddadaimsayin]

and as usual, i stand by the immitagably verbose dude's statements.

[jetbtkng]

all we need is for a na guy to compare the 2, whos got a cpe, i'll take the injen off my black lara cause its being painted, i'll get fernando, to put them on his car, take it to the dyno shop, and we'll find out, i'll even pay for dyno, and we'll get the #'s, what does what...............

[Dawgz]

wow....@ this thread.


Heres the run down.

If ur N/A and u get the injen intake (with out tune) or the CPE with out using the tunable box....ur results will be similar.

The real gain you will see is when you tune after installing either one to take advantage of the extra air at which ever RPM.

it really just comes down to ur budget.

[kenny6683]

the debate is pretty good here lol...if you guys ever get the actually numbers from dyno let me know, very curious. if injen only does 10 hp gain and CP-e does 12 then i would rather save the extra cash

[99BlackSandv6]

OK OK, his opinion of one being better than the other is one thing. But actual performance testing and determining EXACT performance differences between the different systems is as OBJECTIVE as it gets.

That's what we need, one person, with one car, in one day, testing the intakes against one another on a dyno.

If anyone wants to donate a CP-e to me let me know.

[crispone]

OK OK, his opinion of one being better than the other is one thing. But actual performance testing and determining EXACT performance differences between the different systems is as OBJECTIVE as it gets.

That's what we need, one person, with one car, in one day, testing the intakes against one another on a dyno.

If anyone wants to donate a CP-e to me let me know.

I'm all for finding out what the results of comparative testing would be.


Happy with my choice, and certain that it is an improvement over stock, and even more certain that it was worth the cost FOR ME.



Best of choices to everyone else!


-crisp

[crispone]

and as usual, i stand by the immitagably verbose dude's statements.

Thank you, sir!







-crisp

[x99suplarax]

when i get my knock sensors replaced ill do a run with the cpe intake in a day or two..

http://www.solaraguy.com/viewtopic.php?t=45529&start=15 <-- this is with injen intake

[jetbtkng]

now were getting some where, when you did your last dyno how hot or cold was it outside, and also humidity plays a role, atleast there will be something to compare the 2....................

[x99suplarax]

now were getting some where, when you did your last dyno how hot or cold was it outside, and also humidity plays a role, atleast there will be something to compare the 2....................

60 something degrees

wow....@ this thread.


Heres the run down.

If ur N/A and u get the injen intake (with out tune) or the CPE with out using the tunable box....ur results will be similar.

The real gain you will see is when you tune after installing either one to take advantage of the extra air at which ever RPM.

it really just comes down to ur budget.

i guess i cant do it then.. cuz the cpe i have right now isnt tuneable.. hmm i guess i should get the tuneable asap to gain hp and to get me out of being rich..