My Es300 Caliper (front and rear) swap thread.

[Dawgz]

Let me tell u guys that this is a Complete swap, everything swaps over to the gen1 solara. And the upgrade/swap is well worth it!

[GreenSolara01]

Love what your doing! got a list of P#s one would need to undertake such a thig? my brakes prob need to be replaced why not upgrade?

[Dawgz]

Love what your doing! got a list of P#s one would need to undertake such a thig? my brakes prob need to be replaced why not upgrade?

I cant take the credit for this swap, ASG14 and TRD4Life found out that these things swap over to our cars.


I dont have the Part numbers but all you need to do is order the brake calipers for an 1996 es300 (front and rear calipers as well as rotors and pads).

The front rotor is the same size as the gen 1 solara though, the rear one is different than the gen 1....as well as the backing plate.


And yes, if ur calipers need to be replaced, u might as well go this route, and most definitly if you are boosted.

[Dawgz]

Let me also just say that this swap/mod made me feel that it should definitly be the second thing someone does after they get boosted. If you'r gonna go fast, you might as well upgrade your locomotive's stopping capabilities to account for the upgraded power.

[GreenSolara01]

If you don't mind me asking what did the whole swap set you back? Is it done yet? Did not want slote rotors?

[Dawgz]

If you don't mind me asking what did the whole swap set you back? Is it done yet? Did not want slote rotors?

Yes, its installed. I will upload pictures tomorrow.


The swap should cost +- $600. (You can get it for a tad cheaper if you get the parts from ASG14).

[TMMK Toy]

If you do dual piston front upgrade then going with the larger rear shouldnt be that much of an issue as to cause the rear to lock up before the front. Remember, the car already has 60% of its weight up front. I got too much front brake so looking forward to improving the back

[RON]

So just making a thread about my swap. Going with the dual piston's upfront and the larger one piston for the rear...the rear calipers are the size of the FRONT stock ones! and the rear disc is bigger than the front!

I will post more pics durring/after the install.

NICE..

Question...you said *larger one piston* caliper in the rear. I understand that the caliper and piston BORE is the same for the Stock Camry/Solara and ES300...1.37"....and they're MUCH smaller than the STOCK fronts (2.37"Bore). What rear calipers did you use?

AS FAR AS THE DUAL ES FRONT Caliper (I know you're a big *FAN* )....just some info for others thinking of using the BIG brake kit. Yes, it has some advantages over the Stock calipers, but you would be surprised to know that the CLAMPING FORCE is *only* 3% more than the Stockers! The clamping force is directly proportional to the PISTON AREA..all other things being equal. PAD SIZE HAS NO EFFECT on clamping force! The diameter of the Stock piston is 2.37" with an area of 4.38 Sq in. The ES Dual has TWO pistons of 1.69 diam @2.25 Sq In for a total area of 4.50 Sq in. That's a differerence of .12 " or about 3% more for the ES duals. Yes...the duals are a bit *better* because you can spread the force over a larger area for less fade, but I don't think *fade* is going to be a problem for the stock pads with those MAMMOTH rotors running MUCH cooler!!
You could go with a bigger caliper (larger piston area) up front....BUT then you have a *problem*. First, the BALANCE would really be upset Front to back (you already have 20% more braking force up front with the Kit) and the PEDAL would go to the *floor* (more travel) with the same master Cyl and bigger pistons.

[GreenSolara01]

I like where this is going.

[Dawgz]

So just making a thread about my swap. Going with the dual piston's upfront and the larger one piston for the rear...the rear calipers are the size of the FRONT stock ones! and the rear disc is bigger than the front!

I will post more pics durring/after the install.

NICE..

Question...you said *larger one piston* caliper in the rear. I understand that the caliper and piston BORE is the same for the Stock Camry/Solara and ES300...1.37"....and they're MUCH smaller than the STOCK fronts (2.37"Bore). What rear calipers did you use?

AS FAR AS THE DUAL ES FRONT Caliper (I know you're a big *FAN* )....just some info for others thinking of using the BIG brake kit. Yes, it has some advantages over the Stock calipers, but you would be surprised to know that the CLAMPING FORCE is *only* 3% more than the Stockers! The clamping force is directly proportional to the PISTON AREA..all other things being equal. PAD SIZE HAS NO EFFECT on clamping force! The diameter of the Stock piston is 2.37" with an area of 4.38 Sq in. The ES Dual has TWO pistons of 1.69 diam @2.25 Sq In for a total area of 4.50 Sq in. That's a differerence of .12 " or about 3% more for the ES duals. Yes...the duals are a bit *better* because you can spread the force over a larger area for less fade, but I don't think *fade* is going to be a problem for the stock pads with those MAMMOTH rotors running MUCH cooler!!
You could go with a bigger caliper (larger piston area) up front....BUT then you have a *problem*. First, the BALANCE would really be upset Front to back (you already have 20% more braking force up front with the Kit) and the PEDAL would go to the *floor* (more travel) with the same master Cyl and bigger pistons.

All ur calculations may be correct, but in reality, the bite i get from the new setup is much more better than the stockies.

I have predicitable braking now, i know exactly how the car is going to respond when i brake, how soon id have to brake, etc.

I still stand by my statement that i had given earlier, anyone who is boosted, should do this mod next.

[RON]

Does anyone know if calipers from a GEN 6 Camry/ 2007 Solara 6 cyl will fit the kit?

These calipers ARE bigger and will provide 10% more stopping power than the Stock/ES300 duals. They are SINGLE piston but have a 10% LARGER PISTON AREA than the duals/stock calipers and the pads are larger than the duals with a length of 5.6". If you were going to really add stopping power to the kit, this would be the way to go.

[Dawgz]

Does anyone know if calipers from a GEN 6 Camry/ 2007 Solara 6 cyl will fit the kit?

These calipers ARE bigger and will provide 10% more stopping power than the Stock/ES300 duals. They are SINGLE piston but have a 10% LARGER PISTON AREA than the duals/stock calipers and the pads are larger than the duals with a length of 5.6". If you were going to really add stopping power to the kit, this would be the way to go.

while ur at it, why dont u look into getting the tundra front calipers. They have a 4 piston setup.

[alltrac92]

2007 Camry V6

[RON]

Yep..63.5 mm. The piston bore on the stock is 60mm and 43 mm X2 for the ES duals. Don't know if that will bolt on to the Kit though. Someone needs to get one and try it. That would be the way to go if you wanted to add another 10% to the clamping force..or 30% total gain. I wouldn't want (nor would you need ) anything with MORE capacity. The balance F/R would be out of wack and you would start to have "peddle travel issues" with much bigger pistons and stock MC.

[SleeperSolara]

There was a guy back in the days, that had a MKIV Supra TT Master Cylinder on the Solara......