TRD4life/ASG14 Rear Big Brake Kit Install Complete , PICS

[ASG14]

^ Gabe (TRD4LIFE) may be having a 4-piston front setup coming out before long.

[panic]

There are some excellent reasons why this should be approached with caution, but don't let that stop you.

[ASG14]

There are some excellent reasons why this should be approached with caution, but don't let that stop you.

What reason's are those?

[alltrac92]

There are some excellent reasons why this should be approached with caution, but don't let that stop you.

What is your reasoning? both cars use the same master cylinder and wheel hubs.

[sydemoid]

Gabe spoke to me briefly on his idea.... I haven't had funds, or time to look into it though.

I have for some time been looking at wilwood, or brembo calipers, heck, I even found some Alcon 6 pistons on ebay, but was outbidded....

eh, all I can hope for is that I have funds available when these new kits are built.... you guys look at the Lexus IS 300 rear calipers, to see if it fits?

[STYLSH]

There are some excellent reasons why this should be approached with caution, but don't let that stop you.

Whats the point of saying this when you dont say why? Whats wrong with the idea? Bigger brake rotors, bigger calipers, bigger brake pad = better brakes...

Only down side i can think of is that you need to remember to order the right pads/rotors the next time, which is trivial and nothing to do with the performance.

[Ilovemylara]

Someone mention wanting drilled rotors for this kit? Here you go!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-93-94 ... ccessories

[ASG14]

^ Nice find.

Tire Rack also has a few different slotted as well as drilled to choose from.

[panic]

Well, that was sort of my point - you don't know what it does, and are assuming that there can be no consequences, and only positive results.
Wrong, and wrong.

Really - I'd explain, but then someone would certainly say "I did it, and I'm not dead yet, so it must be a great idea and you're a hater".

[Dawgz]

Well, that was sort of my point - you don't know what it does, and are assuming that there can be no consequences, and only positive results.
Wrong, and wrong.

Really - I'd explain, but then someone would certainly say "I did it, and I'm not dead yet, so it must be a great idea and you're a hater".

If you do feel that there is something wrong, please do speak out. We would like to (atleast I would) hear your opinion on this.

[alltrac92]

I think panic is living up to his name. I could see if these calipers were from a Neon or some other make. Both gen 3 and 4 Camry use the same wheel hub and master cylinder.

[ASG14]

Ok.....Here it goes.

My friend has a 5SFE '95 camry, front disc-single piston, rear drum. We decided to overhaul everything in Feb this year (And keep in mind, NO PROBLEMS TO DATE!)

Front swapped to Ericsol adapters for Supra TT Rotors and single piston to twin piston calipers.
Rear drums swapped to ES300 setup.

Several other people on here have done either a rear drum to disc, or disc to ES300 setup, and no issues to date.

I am also (as far as I know) the 1st to do a Gen 5 rear drum to disc swap. I don't half ass crap, I do my research.

[panic]

1. the higher rear weight distribution of the loaded wagon is why the rotors are bigger.
2. if your weight distribution is not the same, the result is either premature rear wheel locking or early ABS activation (less braking before the ABS takes over). Larger rear tires may help this.
3. the rear brakes do very little in any case. If the rotor and caliper increased maximum retardant force on the rear wheels by 25% (probably less), and the wheel could not lock, the effect on total G force until ABS braking (to remove the driver as a subjective variable) would be perhaps 5% better.
4. downside is higher unsprung weight, higher rotating weight, higher total weight, and less weight % on the drive wheels.

I personally wouldn't use these parts in place of the originals, even if the car were apart and I had both available for free.

[panic]

Increasing the front rotor size is a very big deal, but with the same weight penalties. The only real questions are: do you really need it, and can you afford it?

Changing rear drum to rear disc is good even if the total force does not change, because:
1. less water and dirt sensitive
2. discs have no servo action, so (aside from the pressure differential due to weight and size) front and rear behave alike when applied, without locking because a bad adjustment, wear, contamination of the shoe etc. won't affect ABS
3. it might weight more - depends on the car

[alltrac92]

1995 ES300 uses the same rear caliper and rotor.
Curb weight between the ES300 and the Solara/Camry is almost the same.