UPFD 2AZ Solara Turbo Kit TBA @ SEMA...

Website · by **Turbosolara** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:54 pm

i dont get it, is 2AZ bullet proof or something? there are so many turbo kit out there but the wierd thing is i have not seen a turbo one on the street or street race yet.

by **Mandarinsolara** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:07 pm

heres something i cooked up awhile back

its something to consider

http://www.solaraguy.org/viewtopic.php?t=17456

by **dominoSLEV6** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:17 pm

Haha I remember finding that thread somewhere and thought Mike's comment was funny as hell.

I think it can generally be true to an extent. However I also feel that if a supercharger is TRULY pushing the same psi as a Turbo there shouldn't be a difference. MY friend has an 8 pound pully on his procharged mach1, and his boost gauge isn't working yet for some reason. We went to dyno tune at a very reputable mustang tuning shop around here and they hooke dup their boost gauge which showed he was only making 5.5-6 pounds. His supercharger is more like a belt driven turbo and not manifold rotor style like many other superchargers (TRD etc.). I don't know a lot about boosting mind you, but it seems to me that it just may be improper readings etc. that lead to theories that turbos are better than superchargers.

What I'm trying to say is that air is coming in under the same pressure so I don't understand how ti could work differently. Now which one can create that pressure more easily is openly up for grabs as turbos do a damn good job. Also remember lack of turbo lag with superchargers, and a lot of intake manifold replacements now have valves to realease excess air coming in eliminating parastitic loss.

I know this is all a shot in the dark as I don't know what I'm really talking about, but I'm just looking at it from a physics standpoint. If air is entering your engine at a specific pressure, does it really matter how it got there? This is where intercoolers can come into play so I'll rephrase that to mean the same tempurature and pressure. With physics, does it really matter just how it got there? I guess the recirculation plays into how fast he turbine in a turbo can create that boost as compared to a supercharger, but whatever. I don't think I'll ever fully understand boost.

-chris

-chris

by **xavier** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:14 am

I think that you can look at it like this: the supercharger is going to take more power to achieve the same psi as a turbo. This is due to belt-driven loss. The more pulley's you take off a motor, the more power it makes. With a supercharger, your adding a pulley which is more to turn. They each have their ups and downs though

by **Mandarinsolara** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:36 am

yes, you can say that the gains are close enough to each other... your mustang friend's supercharger is called a "centrifugal" supercharger ... it is just setup differently from our roots type superchargers ...

the thing about superchargers that i dont like is that the higher the boost you run on a supercharger the less efficient it becomes. yes you are getting more boost out of to increase horspower, but it takes mo powah to turn the supercharger and it just increases the rest of the strain on the motor.

that maxima dyno chart really proves that

by **ruffrydasean** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:42 am

Zoni over @ toyotanation is developing a 1MZ Turbo Kit.. so if UFPD doesn't make it... Zoni will have his soon. I'm gettin rid of my S/C when he comes out with it

by **SleeperSolara** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:59 am

Really another kind of forced induction for 1MZ's
Holla; will have to see.

by **Astro** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:25 am

ruffrydasean wrote:Zoni over @ toyotanation is developing a 1MZ Turbo Kit.. so if UFPD doesn't make it... Zoni will have his soon. I'm gettin rid of my S/C when he comes out with it

OOOH, competition!!!

by **Mandarinsolara** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:48 am

ruffrydasean wrote:Zoni over @ toyotanation is developing a 1MZ Turbo Kit.. so if UFPD doesn't make it... Zoni will have his soon. I'm gettin rid of my S/C when he comes out with it

i expect a lot of guys will be just like you

& then even better... we got some superchargers back on the market for those guys that dont want to go overboard

by **StockSolara** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:53 pm

ruffrydasean wrote:Zoni over @ toyotanation is developing a 1MZ Turbo Kit.. so if UFPD doesn't make it... Zoni will have his soon. I'm gettin rid of my S/C when he comes out with it

Nice. . .

by **vairdasol** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:08 pm

So whats the HP gain if the 1mz where to get T/C? approx?

by **i20solara02i** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:15 pm

stop flooding the thread about the 1mz. this is a 2az turbo thread.

by **SPF 0** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:07 pm

Is that 500 reliable horsepower? We're talking about a more than two-fold increase; stock components are that much overbuilt?

by **Astro** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:47 am

SPF 0 wrote:Is that 500 reliable horsepower? We're talking about a more than two-fold increase; stock components are that much overbuilt?

I'm pretty sure they'll be spending money on building the internals to reach those kind of numbers, I highly doubt it can handle that much. If it did, I wouldn't see it lasting...

by **Mandarinsolara** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:27 am

apparently stock internal tC's have been put deep into the 11's

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