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Talk about aftermarket Toyota Solara Gen 1-1.5 upgrades.

Replacing Stock Struts...

Postby dbanker » Fri Dec 13, 2002 1:27 pm

The two best sites I have seen are shox.com and wholehyper.com At shox.com I got an e-mail back saying the Tokico struts are $399, and the eiback springs $219. While wholehyper.com lists the Tokico's as about $400 and the springs at $230. So pretty similar...both from what I've heard are very reputable as well.

One thing...I've never done this sort of upgrade before so is all I need the struts and shocks, and either I or a mechanic will just take care of the rest? Do I need to worry about having proper tires or anything else? BTW, you don't have either the trd or whiteline? rsb installed on your toyota do you?
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Postby Peter » Fri Dec 13, 2002 2:54 pm

yeah, all u need is strut and spring. get it your wheels aligned after. what do you mean by rsb or whiteline?
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Postby dbanker » Fri Dec 13, 2002 3:07 pm

I was refering to the rear sway bar assembly you can add on. It lessens body roll and improves handling. Runs about 150-200 bucks depending on where you look. I guess the TRD rear sway bar has 2 "settings" depending on where you bolt it under the car...and the whiteline has just one setting...which is supposedly a compromise between the two TRD settings. But the TRD settings include one which is basically the stock setting, and the other which is more stiff and decreases the body roll by about 30-35% is what I read somewhere.
Anyway...If I go with the Tokico struts and Eibach springs I think I'll hold off with the rear sway bar and see what it's like. I'm looking forward to giving the struts and eibach's a shot though...from what people have said it's pretty awesome. I wasn't originally going to do this upgrade but I think I'll give it a shot. My brother owns a '93 300Z convertable that handles like a champ but the ride is pretty crappy, but fun nonetheless. So I know it won't be that severe at all...probably a good compromise. Se we'll see...

if you're curious romaniatoyotaparts.com and toyotaparts4u.com both have the rear sway bar and other solara parts.
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Postby Peter » Fri Dec 13, 2002 3:16 pm

i think i'll be getting the bar used from a friend of mine. he's letting it go for about 100 maybe less
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Postby dbanker » Fri Dec 13, 2002 3:22 pm

why is your friend getting rid of it?
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Postby Peter » Fri Dec 13, 2002 3:23 pm

he leased his car, and he's selling all his aftermarket upgrades and going back to stock to return it
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Postby cdssolara » Fri Dec 13, 2002 4:15 pm

dbanker - I get the feeling that you're pretty concerned about compromising your ride quality if you go from stock suspension to something like the Tokico/Eibach combination. I had the same concerns before I made this move, but after going ahead, I was completely satisfied with my decision. I had no regrets, absolutely none. The new struts and springs made the car look better, and perform as if it was a different (interpretation: better) car.

The stock Solara gives a very comfortable ride. The stock set-up is great for slow cruising. One of the car magazines calls it a cream-puff set up. It absorbs bumps, and gives you a feeling of luxury. Everything is a compromise, however. On the highway, the soft suspension makes it a little too floaty to ever feel truly stable. You can feel it sway on high speed curves, dive during hard braking, and squat if you really hit the gas. I can't even imagine how it would be on a slalom course, but I'll keep this to real world driving. Anyway, all those issues go away when you upgrade the struts and springs. The car simply feels more planted to the road. At first, it won't feel like a huge difference, but once you start playing with the car on a highway, you'll appreciate the improvement. You should find that the car is actually more comfortable at higher speeds than it was before. While cruising at slower speeds, you will notice bumps in the road a little more than before, but it's hardly a stiff ride. The small ( and I mean tiny ) reduction in comfort at slow speeds is forgotten in less than a day of driving. Nobody who rides in your car will feel that it is a stiff ride. So, for the small tradeoff at slow speeds, you get a car that is actually more comfortable at highway speeds, plus feels a lot more secure and stable.

The approximately 1.25" - 1.5" drop is almost unnoticeable; it won't look like a lowrider or a "slammed" car. Your wheels and tires will fill up your wheel wells more, which always improves the appearance. You will find that you have to be somewhat more attentive to curbs, speedbumps, and other raised items on or near the road. You won't clear everything that you cleared before. You get used to that pretty quickly, though. Because of the drop and the stiffer struts, you will have a car that is much more responsive and performance oriented than before.

I think you get the picture. I can't understand why everybody doesn't go this route. Unless you really like a super soft ride, it doesn't make sense not to go this route.
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Postby Yanks0114 » Fri Dec 13, 2002 4:38 pm

cdsolara even considered being an eibach and tokico salesman cuz dam you just convinced me. I knew that i wanted to lower it and do suspension but i had just been putting it off. Time to get serious pricing things out, last time i checked a local shop would do it for $750 plus installation
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Postby cdssolara » Fri Dec 13, 2002 4:46 pm

yanks0114 wrote:cdsolara even considered being an eibach and tokico salesman cuz dam you just convinced me. I knew that i wanted to lower it and do suspension but i had just been putting it off. Time to get serious pricing things out, last time i checked a local shop would do it for $750 plus installation


LOL :D It's easy to put a good spin on something if you really believe it is worthwhile!

Your price sounds high; check around. dbanker's examples would save you $100 on the parts. I've heard of shops doing he installation as low as $130, but I think $150-$200 is more the norm. The fronts are fairly easy for a shop, but the rear's are tough. The back seats and rear deck have to be removed to get to the rear strut mounts, so it is pretty time consuming. Sometimes shops will give a low estimate, not realizing the time the rears can take.
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Postby Yanks0114 » Fri Dec 13, 2002 4:51 pm

Woops i mean 750 including installation. He was matching shox.com prices and then install was 150. I meant 750 plus tax. My bad
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Postby dbanker » Fri Dec 13, 2002 5:08 pm

cdssolara-

Thanks for taking the time to respond....that's exactly the kind of info I've been wanting to know. While the stock ride is pretty dang cumfy it's pretty squishy around corners and has an unstable feeling at higher speeds. I'd much rather have a nice compromise...with a good ride and great handling ability. Sounds like from what you, and others have said, that the ride at lower speeds will become a bit more rigid but not to an extreme and just a little more stiff than the stock. Which sounds great to me...
I've pretty much decided I'm going to go with the new struts and shocks....I'll go ahead and order them this weekend. I've been thinking about installing a rear sway bar assembly as well but after this upgrade I don't think I'll feel the need to do it...but I'll wait and see how it feels. I'm really looking forward to see what this upgrade does though. Sounds like it's one of the best upgrades anyone who owns a solara can do.
Thanks again for all the great info, I appreciate it.

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Postby cdssolara » Fri Dec 13, 2002 6:46 pm

Doug - No problem. I could tell from your posts that you were in the exact state of mind that I was when I was considering the upgrade. I was afraid that I might have come on too strong about the benefits, but based on what you've just said, I think you'll really love it. Honestly, I think it is a better upgrade than the supercharger, at least with the stock pulley. The Solara doesn't need the supercharger, but it needs a suspension upgrade. The benefits are just so obvious.

As for the sway bar, I think you're right to wait a bit. Get a feel for the suspension first. What a lot of people do, myself included, is develop a completely new set of tolerances as they upgrade. In other words, something that might feel overly firm now will seem much less so after you get the feel for your new suspension. That may make you want to tweak things later. I think the sway bar will still be a good modification for you, and at around $150, it's a bargain. Just so you know, what it will do for you is stiffen the rear in relation to the front. Unless you mate it with a stiffer front sway bar, it won't truly give you flatter cornering abilities. What it will do is keep your rear end more firmly planted in a corner, which will reduce the car's tendency to understeer. You can really notice the rear holding on with the stiffer sway bar. The only problem with them is that they tend to squeak after a few months, and the bushings need to be regreased on a regular basis.

Good luck with everything and keep us posted on how you like the suspension upgrade.
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Postby dbanker » Fri Dec 13, 2002 7:16 pm

Will do cdssolara...once I get everything installed within the next few weeks i'll post how it all went.
I'm definitely considering the rear sway bar since the solara naturally seems to have an understeer. Installing it would probably match up great with the front and make it more neutral. I've heard about the squeaking as well...some people seem to say that greasing it up every 6 months or so seems to take care of it. So I'll wait and see...for now I can't wait to get those struts and springs on there. Thanks again-
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Postby Optimus » Fri Dec 13, 2002 8:45 pm

One thing failed to be mentioned in regards to handling is tires. They can have a HUGE effect on how the car hugs to the road. I recently changed mine from stock to Yokahama high performance and the change in corning ability has been amazing even with stock suspension.

Struts and springs will help, especially on the high speed feel (body lean, etc.). But understeer can be a traction problem caused by tires. I think I would actually start with tires (and rims) first because struts is a fairly major mechanical change.

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Postby dbanker » Fri Dec 13, 2002 8:51 pm

good point...that's an upgrade I certainly plan on making sometime in the spring. I live on Colorado though so I'm one of the fortunate souls who get to use...SNOW TIRES!!! What a dream to ride on.....hehehe
I need new tires anyway so I'm going to upgrade to some nice one's this time around. I have a few months to look around, but I'll definitely take the Yokahama's into consideration. Thanks!
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