Ground wiring

[Jakecallun20]

What are these ground wire kits I see on ebay? what exactly do they do?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOYOTA-G ... enameZWDVW

I found this one, just wondering if it helps out any.

[SleeperSolara]

Helps stablize the groundin' points in the engine bay.

[AllShowNoGo]

I did the big 3 and helped out big time. Could be in my head but i felt the car run smoother. Plus my lights stopped dimming everytime the base hit.

[Chinky420]

i'm not sure of the quality of those wires....they don't have any specs on the type of wire used, or the terminals, or anything. $9.99....you may be getting what you pay for.

http://www.solaraguy.org/viewtopic.php?t=33618&highlight=hyper+ground+wire here's an old post i started on the subject, which has a decent description of how it works, and various other links related to the subject.

i made my own, and it was relatively easy. the reason i'm suspicious of these ebay ones, is that the set costs less than JUST the copper wire i used (which i bought on clearance from http://www.knukonceptz.com for $0.69/foot).

i have some extra 4AWG wire left over and gold plated terminals. PM me if you're interested in having me make you a custom set, or if you want to buy some of my excess material.

i'll tell you right now, if you want me to make it, i crimp using a hammer, rather than soldering the terminal to the end of the wire, which make mine a bit more ghetto, but i havent had any problems with them coming undone yet (~3 months).

when i installed mine, i could feel a difference in the throttle response (slightly, so it may be in my head), also, the gas milage went up about 30 miles/tank (also subject to personal interpretation, as driving habits greatly effects the type of milage/tank). i also noticed it was a tad bit easier to do an auto-trans burnout with the wires installed...take my anecdotal claims for what they are, anecdotes, since i dont have any hard/consistant numbers to back up my claims.

in my opinion, it's a good mod, if you can avoid spending over $60 on them, and also get copper wiring or copper-plated wiring.

[Jakecallun20]

this is something I could be interested in. is there a tutorial on how to install them? or do they just bolt to the frame.

[Chinky420]

install is easy if you can work a wrench and/or screwdriver. basically, everything bolts up near electrical components, via bolts that are already there. i ran some from the stock ground points, also have one to the throttle body, engine valve cover, one near the injectors, and some others.

i kinda winged it when i was choosing and cutting my wire, so i dont remember exactly what lengths i used, or how many i made.

i bolted a good bit of them to a common screw (where my OEM air intake box used to be), since i didn't have a metal hub (like the one on the ebay listing). from that common screw i went to the negative terminal on the battery, and also had another wire coming from the neg terminal that went to the stock ground point on the chassis

[Jakecallun20]

sounds like a plan. Just to clarify, you have 3 wires connected to the neg terminal? The actual ground wire for the car, one from that common screw (or a hub) and then one running to a ground point on the frame/body of the car? Or does this hub deal replace the negative terminal? And on another thought, I found this. It looks like better quality. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RALLIART ... dZViewItem

Thanks for all your help
-Jake

[Chinky420]

3 wires, yeah....well, if you count the stock one (which merges w/ the neg cable, so it's not really 'screwed' in, it's just there), as it should be...but the other two you got right, common hub --> neg, and also frame --> neg. those are linked up where you tighten the screw for the neg terminal.

the circular hub in the ebay listing is what i used my makeshift common screwhole for.

-Special copper wire mesh use as central core
-Transparent head-resistance wire jacket to protect inner copper cores
-Special battery terminal adaptor is made from highest quality aluminum
-Aluminum made central plate to collect all wires from different ground terminals

sounds a little suspect still. google search the relative impedence values for aluminum vs gold and copper...i dont think it's as good a conductor. also, i'm unsure exactly what is meant by "special copper wire mesh" in the first point i quoted...as well, there aren't any specifications on wire gauge (which means i'd suspect 8AWG or smaller).

...from the common hub i daisy-chain it around the engine bay....i'll get around to taking some pics when it's less rainy outside (weird so-tex weather... ) pm me your email address so i can send em

[SleeperSolara]

I made my own groundin' kit.
I used 0 AWG wire for the negative terminal.
I got Rockford Fosgate post clamps on both postive and negative terminals.
I used the regular groundin' points but upp-ed the wire AWG.
Soon i think i'm goin' to up the 10 AWG wire i had to 4 AWG.
Positive post wires i used 4 AWG.


^^
What my post clamps look like.