DUEL CHARGING THE SOLARA

by **TECHNOCRAFT** » Sat Apr 19, 2003 9:31 pm

I was wondering if it was possible to dual charge the Solara? I have seen someone turbocharging a 1mz-fe engine with a CT-26 turbo from a supra as seen in the pic below and I was wondering can you add that with a supercharger?

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by **krazeee1707** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 12:54 am

Not too sure about the solara's. I know a buddy of mine had a civic si w/ a Jackson racing supercharger. Then he bought a turbo and thought it would have both the turbo and the supercharger on thier. Unfortunatly that didn't work. He mentioned that the charger wouldn't be able to keep up w/ the turbo. I'm not too sure if it would be the same deal with our cars, but i just dont' think it will work.

by **Jackass-Jeff** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 1:14 am

i guess if you ran the same amount of pressure, the sc can keep up w/ the turbo... but why have a slow turbo... i'm sure there's a way to set up the pulleys to allow the s/c to "roll by" (like the gear on the starter) while the turbo is running at high speeds...

by **Yungsta R** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 1:25 am

no, it's not possible to have both a supercharger and a turbocharger on a solara. it's possible to twin-turbo a solara but not bi-turbo a solara. the reason being that a solara only has 1 throttle body and a supercharger/turbocharger needs it's own throttle body.

by **Yungsta R** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 1:31 am

i just read wat i posted and it doesn't make much sense :roll:

... but my point is, u can't have two different types of forced induction forcing air into a single point... ok that doesn't make sense either :roll:

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by **Guest** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 3:01 am

Yungsta R, it is possible to have both. And Sorry I have now found out that it's called twincharged. Because the TRD supercharger replaces the intake manifold so, the throttle body is open for a turbo. I believe that there was an toyota engine that was. The twincharged 4agze in an 86. I think...but yeah i think it'll be complex if someone was to do this.

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by **808Camry** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 3:24 am

Okay this is how the two work.

A supercharger, uses the cars pulley's to spin a turbine in side the SC to pull more air into the engine.

A turbo uses exhaust gases to spin a turbine forcing air into the engine. The turbo can push way more air thus eliminating the need for an SC. If the SC can't spin fast enough it would be very limited in the amount of power it puts out. Definately not worth the money. You'd get a WAY better HP to $ ratio by getting some nitrous.

EDIT: Okay forget what I said, I don't know what I'm talking about. :oops:

by **Jackass-Jeff** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 8:43 am

Yungsta, bi-turbo means twin turbo

I think he wants to have the benefits of a s/c (all around gain) and the turbo benefit (high end super gain) instead of just mediocre gain from eitheror... but the twin turbo is supposed to take care of that... the low end turbo and the high end turbo... iono =x i don't know too much, i'm just adding what i've heard around about these technologies

by **Flipside909** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 10:32 am

Yungsta R wrote:no, it's not possible to have both a supercharger and a turbocharger on a solara. it's possible to twin-turbo a solara but not bi-turbo a solara. the reason being that a solara only has 1 throttle body and a supercharger/turbocharger needs it's own throttle body.

You obviously haven't seen the twin charged (TRD S/C & Turbo) 1MZ-FE MR2 that's been out on Turbo Magazine as a buildup in the last few months. Your info is wrong. I'd suggest you get your facts straight first.

by **Flipside909** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 10:36 am

Anonymous wrote:I believe that there was an toyota engine that was. The twincharged 4agze in an 86. I think...but yeah i think it'll be complex if someone was to do this.

Nope sorry kid, Toyota never released a twin charged motor. They did offer the 4A-GZE as a supercharged TWIN CAM motor. Not a twin charged. The only twin charged 4A-GZE motor i've seen was a custom setup.

by **Yungsta R** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 12:42 pm

xravexboix wrote:Yungsta, bi-turbo means twin turbo

I think he wants to have the benefits of a s/c (all around gain) and the turbo benefit (high end super gain) instead of just mediocre gain from eitheror... but the twin turbo is supposed to take care of that... the low end turbo and the high end turbo... iono =x i don't know too much, i'm just adding what i've heard around about these technologies

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actually, twin turbo and bi turbo are 2 different things. look at the supra, their turbos run in a series which connects to a single throttle body. then look at the s4, the have 2 single turbos connected to 2 seperate throttle bodies.

by **Yungsta R** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 12:53 pm

Flipside909 wrote:
Yungsta R wrote:no, it's not possible to have both a supercharger and a turbocharger on a solara. it's possible to twin-turbo a solara but not bi-turbo a solara. the reason being that a solara only has 1 throttle body and a supercharger/turbocharger needs it's own throttle body.

You obviously haven't seen the twin charged (TRD S/C & Turbo) 1MZ-FE MR2 that's been out on Turbo Magazine as a buildup in the last few months. Your info is wrong. I'd suggest you get your facts straight first.

naw, i've never seen it. i don't know much about cars but my basic motoring knowledge tells me that it's not possible unless u custom install another point of induction. could u explain how it's possible to dual charge a car with one throttle body? i guess u learn something new everyday

by **Flipside909** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 12:06 am

Yungsta R wrote:naw, i've never seen it. i don't know much about cars but my basic motoring knowledge tells me that it's not possible unless u custom install another point of induction. could u explain how it's possible to dual charge a car with one throttle body? i guess u learn something new everyday

I could explain it but it will take forever. Theres an article out there that explains how to Twin charge a car and how it works. In a nutshell in performance terms, the s/c takes care of the low end boost...the turbo takes care of the high end. Meguiar's Integra is a twin charged vehicle. Just do a search on google for twin charging.

by **Flipside909** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 12:12 am

If you look at Tony's turbo setup in the pic above...the TRD S/C would replace your stock intake plenum.

Basically...this would be the cycle of the air into the intake throught the motor:

Exhaust Gas>spools TURBO>moves air through INTERCOOLER>to MAF>through TB>into TRD SC>through cylinders...and back out to exhaust manifold. All the air would still be going into one throttle body.

by **TECHNOCRAFT** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 1:10 pm

Check this page out. I think he's done a few twin charging on the older Toyotas.

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Lane ... rging.html

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