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To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby chullen1 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:12 am

I am getting ready to build a new motor via Gabe but am unsure of what direction to go. I will be building a 3mz/1mz hybrid but need to figure out if I will be doing a n/a build or boost? I want something reliable but quick. I can't figure out which one is right for me. I already use 93 octane gas but really want use as little as possible with gas being priced so high. Any input would be great?
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Re: To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby 1gSE » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:29 pm

One thing I want to point out which I'm sure you're aware of is, you gotta pay to play. If gas price is an issue, why build a hybrid engine for boost? Reliable and quick = $$$$ With that said....I'd go for boost. I haven't seen a high output all motor build here. The r&d probably wouldn't be worth the cost unless you had access to the necessary tools and had the skill to fab your own parts
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Re: To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby chullen1 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:50 pm

I am thinking about boost more and more but am wondering and maybe Gabe can chime in on this. Can you run his supercharger kit on low boost like 7 psi and supporting mods ( fuel mod, injectors, emanage, fuel pump, meth) and then bump it up in boost? I am also considering a turbo instead of a supercharger, looking into a Turbonetics GT-K 450. Only thing is a turbo build of good quality is gonna cost 8-9k
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Re: To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby 1gSE » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:02 pm

I'm sure you could, but if you up the boost you'd definitely want to have some upgraded internals
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Re: To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby chullen1 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:18 pm

I am having gabe build me a completely forged motor. We have yet to talk specfics but I am doing the whole motor. From pistons and rods to port and polishing and oversized valves. I also plan on doing swaintech on the pistons, combustions chambers, valve faces and exhaust ports. So this motor will be stout. Just need to deceide on a compression ratio, one setup for boost or one not setup for it.
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Re: To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby parkc96 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:52 pm

twin turbo plus a supercharger... all your problems are solved :D
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Re: To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby chullen1 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:10 pm

I would love to do what trent has but then money becomes the biggest issue, I can do a motor build and turbo or supercharger not both when it comes to boost right now.
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Re: To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby parkc96 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:04 pm

chullen1 wrote:I would love to do what trent has but then money becomes the biggest issue, I can do a motor build and turbo or supercharger not both when it comes to boost right now.


then just do one big turbo and a supercharger lol jk but i think boost it for sure, i would say the mp90 supercharger from gabe but thats just me
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Re: To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby 02slera » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:45 pm

go for low compression on the build. you can always boost more or less later, but for now, just keep the compression low.
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Re: To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby SpeedySolara » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:44 pm

chullen1 wrote:I am getting ready to build a new motor via Gabe but am unsure of what direction to go. I will be building a 3mz/1mz hybrid but need to figure out if I will be doing a n/a build or boost? I want something reliable but quick. I can't figure out which one is right for me. I already use 93 octane gas but really want use as little as possible with gas being priced so high. Any input would be great?


The question you need to ask yourself is what do you expect/want from your motor? Are you looking for a certain amount of hp, low/high end power, etc. You need to get back to the basics with this one. If I were going to build a motor, I'd expect around 600whp & boosting would be a must, preferably with a turbo.
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Re: To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby chullen1 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:01 am

I tetter totter each day with contemplation on which way to go, a high power n/a will net about 275 on a good day. More realistically 250, a boost motor will do about the same if not a little more on low boost but then I can boost the engine some more. If I do a N/A build I will buy a rebuilt LSD equipped transmission from Gabe. If I do a turbo or supercharger build, I will need to buy the transmission next spring. So I am still up in the air.
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Re: To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby chullen1 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:02 am

I am gonna do a boost build, I will buy just the supercharger and running 4psi for now then once the engine is built over the winter/spring I will bump up boost to 7-8 psi. I am putting all the necessary mods into place before bumping up boost. I think it is the smart way to go.
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Re: To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby trd4life » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:58 am

Really depends on your power goals. The most you will get out of a TRD blower would be something like gregs build, 322whp. If you wanted to shoot higher you need a larger blower/turbo or nitrous.
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Re: To boost or not to Boost? That is thy Question

Postby chullen1 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:17 am

I am going to be content until I can get one your MP90 kits or add a turbo into the mix.
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