Water Wetter

[Dawgz]

Anyone ever use this? A friend told me about it a while ago and i didnt think much of it, i then saw it online a few times and looked it up. It seems logical but then agian everything these days is a damn scam!

anyone have any feedback?


this is their site.

http://www.redlineoil.com/products_coolant.asp

[xan16]

Heh, we use it in the Computer business to keep the water in liquid cooled systems from corroding the heatsink blocks. It marginally improves thermal conductivity. You can get it at Auto-Zone too, I believe.

[SleeperSolara]

There's a couple of coolant coolers, i think Turbo magazine did a experiment on them.
They help on a small margin.

"xan16" That's a good idea.

[Sp33d]

i use it. very good stuff. dropped my coolant temp by 20 degrees. every bit works. plus you cant go wrong, its only 8 bucks

-Mark

[Dawgz]

Is it compatible with Toyota's Red stuff? Is there any long term negative impact on the cooling system's internals (seals, pump, etc).

[xan16]

I don't know if it is compatible with "Toyota's Red Stuff", its probably a similar additive. I haven't noticed any long term impacts as long as its used in small amounts.

[SleeperSolara]

It should be compatible wit every coolant out there, i think.

[QuickSEV6]

I put a bottle of water wetter in my system a while ago. I really don't know if it did any good, but I can say that it didn't cause any problems.

I trust Redline. I use it for my oil too.

[lexmex]

WaterWetter works just fine with the Toyota Red. Have been using that for years. The one however that I am now favoring is the Royal Purple Purple Ice. A lot more guys that I know who do racing seem to favor that over WaterWetter. Only other one that I have had experience with his Nology's NotHot, but you have to use about 2 bottles of that stuff minimally to get any effect.

[Gadgetjq]

Anyone ever use this?

Water Wetter is a surfectant. It helps keep the coolant circulating to prevent hot spots in cylinder heads and places the coolant might not flow freely through the passages.

I noticed a huge difference between standard 50/50 coolant/water mix without water wetter and with it in my old Jaguar XKE. That sucker hated stop and go traffic and would run very hot unless it was romping around at full song. With Water Wetter it still didn't 'like' stop and go traffic but managed to maintain fairly normal operating temperatures. Consider though, that car had a really awful cooling system.

With a great cooling system like the Solara has the product really isn't needed....but won't hurt anything either. I'd use it if I were stuck in daily traffic jams no matter what the vehicle. I even use it in my (liquid cooled) motorcycle.

BTW while you 'can' simply add it to your existing coolant it would probably be better to add it with a full coolant change after flushing your system for best results.

Cheers

[Gadgetjq]

Anyone ever use this? A friend told me about it a while ago and i didnt think much of it, i then saw it online a few times and looked it up. It seems logical but then agian everything these days is a damn scam!

anyone have any feedback?


this is their site.

http://www.redlineoil.com/products_coolant.asp

[Gadgetjq]

Anyone ever use this?

Water Wetter is a surfectant. It helps keep the coolant circulating to prevent hot spots in cylinder heads and places the coolant might not flow freely through the passages.

I noticed a huge difference between standard 50/50 coolant/water mix without water wetter and with it in my old Jaguar XKE. That sucker hated stop and go traffic and would run very hot unless it was romping around at full song. With Water Wetter it still didn't 'like' stop and go traffic but managed to maintain fairly normal operating temperatures. Consider though, that car had a really awful cooling system.

With a great cooling system like the Solara has the product really isn't needed....but won't hurt anything either. I'd use it if I were stuck in daily traffic jams no matter what the vehicle. I even use it in my (liquid cooled) motorcycle.

BTW while you 'can' simply add it to your existing coolant it would probably be better to add it with a full coolant change after flushing your system for best results.

Cheers

[akora12]

It should be compatible with toyota red as long as it doesn't contain silicates. That's what degrades the water pump's seals in normal coolant.

[Black Bob]

This is equivalent to an 'octane booster' for your fuel tank. These manufacturers package a higher content of additives into a smaller bottle that is already included with the coolant or fuel. If you want to blow $10 then dump their magic pill into your radiator or gas tank. I read Redline's tech info .pdf and their claims are so miniscule and common industry knowledge it won't get them sued. Basically this stuff consists of (duh) a wetting agent (intermixed with the term surfactant), deionized water and a defoamer (some wetting agents can foam like a mufu). Regular antifreeze manufacturers already put in their own wetting agent and dispersants to make the dispersion stable so glycol won't separate or settle out from the water. Their main concern is that the dispersion not go to crap on store shelves and inside your engine, so surface tension is not a significant concern. Redline and these others just put the emphasis on surface tension to get you to spend $10 for something they want you to think is something so very important.

As a chemist, here's my caveat as to why I don't use these fuel and coolant additives: wetting agents are notorious for being incompatible with other wetting agents. What I mean by incompatible is that one wetting agent can turn another wetting agent useless causing separation and/or settling within the antifreeze. It's like when your great-great-granddad tells you not to mix engine oils when you top off. Most engine oil manufacturers test their oil compatibility against other manufacturers nowadays plus they are regulated by federal standards. However, these upstart additive companies mostly do not compatibility test due to expense and there no G-men requiring them to do so.

So, in my humble opinion, if you follow your maintenance schedule on your coolant flush and fuel filter change you'll have no need for these materials. You'll see the advantages Redline is already claiming just by doing the normal.

[gnegroni]

IMO, if your region and temperature range allows it, lowering the 50/50 mix to a 40/60 or 30/70 coolant/water mix might provide better cooling benefit. Still, here is some more reading:

Supposed gelling or sliming problem on Tundrasolutions:
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/engine-and-drivetrain/51-redline-water-wetter-users/

Turbo magazine coolant additive comparison:
http://www.turbomagazine.com/features/0703_turp_cooling_system_additives/test_results.html

When things go wrong (haven't read much):
http://www.wizdforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2338