[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /viewtopic.php on line 988: date(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected 'Europe/Moscow' for 'MSD/4.0/DST' instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /viewtopic.php on line 988: getdate(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected 'Europe/Moscow' for 'MSD/4.0/DST' instead
SolaraGuy.com • View topic - Audio help, Ideas
Talk about audio, video and navi stuffs.

Audio help, Ideas

Postby theprodigy79 » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:03 pm

'00vegas-solara wrote:Hey Prodigy what do you think of the Crossfire vr705d? Any good?


It's alright, but not on par with the JL (or several other lines). If you're leaning away from the JL, you may want to take a look at the Alpine MRV-F450 V12 5Ch amp. It's a discontinued model, but it's a pretty badass amp that you can find at reasonable prices. Crossfires are along the same lines of Earthquakes or the like... they're kinda "toyish" in my opinion (more glam than slam). They're decent in SPL competitions for "burping" speakers, pushing extremely high wattages for literally split seconds, but for daily listening they are mediocre. It would get the job done, but for the price there are better.

If you're willing to move to a two amp setup you have a broader selection of quality amps to work with... All you gotta do is split the power at the rear seats and you're set.

Out of curiosity, what attracted you to the Crossfire? The Power Acoustik? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I kinda get the feeling you're trying to deviate a bit from the "norm" (what everybody else has) by staying kinda off-brand (and obviously with your entire install concept). If this is the case, I respect that a lot... PM me and we'll discuss a few viable options... If I'm mistaken, then go ahead and check out the Alpine or the JL models and I promise that you'll be very happy.
'04 Solara SE Sport V6, all TRD + CP-e, gone but not forgotten... '09 G37S Sedan and '88 Supra Turbo project
Image
User avatar
theprodigy79
SolaraGuy Semi-Pro Racer
SolaraGuy Semi-Pro Racer
 
Posts: 3460
Joined: Tue May 17, 2005 8:12 am
Location: Northern Virginia (703)

Postby Chose » Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:32 pm

why do yiu have speaker wire under your seat? do you know how to splice your harness to turn ur rear speaker wires into ur front speaker aduio source? Just get up into your harness and cut your rear speaker and front speaker wires. Splice your front right with your rear right, and the same for the left. Now your rear wires will just come from the amp straight, and your front will hook up to the amp via what used to hook up to the rear. This makes things a lot cleaner and easier to deal with.
Chosen Few
Chose
Just Licensed SolaraGuy
 
Posts: 12
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:21 pm
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio

Postby theprodigy79 » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:33 pm

Chose wrote:why do yiu have speaker wire under your seat? do you know how to splice your harness to turn ur rear speaker wires into ur front speaker aduio source? Just get up into your harness and cut your rear speaker and front speaker wires. Splice your front right with your rear right, and the same for the left. Now your rear wires will just come from the amp straight, and your front will hook up to the amp via what used to hook up to the rear. This makes things a lot cleaner and easier to deal with.


Who is this referring to?
'04 Solara SE Sport V6, all TRD + CP-e, gone but not forgotten... '09 G37S Sedan and '88 Supra Turbo project
Image
User avatar
theprodigy79
SolaraGuy Semi-Pro Racer
SolaraGuy Semi-Pro Racer
 
Posts: 3460
Joined: Tue May 17, 2005 8:12 am
Location: Northern Virginia (703)

Postby '00vegas-solara » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:47 pm

theprodigy79 wrote:
Chose wrote:why do yiu have speaker wire under your seat? do you know how to splice your harness to turn ur rear speaker wires into ur front speaker aduio source? Just get up into your harness and cut your rear speaker and front speaker wires. Splice your front right with your rear right, and the same for the left. Now your rear wires will just come from the amp straight, and your front will hook up to the amp via what used to hook up to the rear. This makes things a lot cleaner and easier to deal with.


Who is this referring to?


I assume he’s referring to me. Why would he think those wires don’t go up to the wire harness? He probally saw this picture on my website.
Image
Just so you know Chose the wires do go to the wire harness behind the touch screen.
User avatar
'00vegas-solara
Regular SolaraGuy Member
Regular SolaraGuy Member
 
Posts: 231
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:12 am
Location: Las Vegas, NV

Postby Chose » Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:04 pm

well I do apologize. I'm used to haveing to help the "less-knowledgable".
Chosen Few
Chose
Just Licensed SolaraGuy
 
Posts: 12
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:21 pm
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio

Postby hskrsolara » Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:24 pm

yeah, you usually don't have to worry about "less knowledgable" folks here. :)
99 DWP SEV6 5spd 6.5psi+Meth, Tein+Tokico, EricSol+Brembos+EBC, OBX Headers+OBX 3" Exhaust, Supra MAF & 330cc, Spec 2+, Fidanza, TRD lip kit, Injen+Ext, Optima Red, Infinity 60.5+693.7i, 2 Kappa Perfect 12 VQ's+iPod+JVC DVD...etc
User avatar
hskrsolara
SolaraGuy Supporter
SolaraGuy Supporter
 
Posts: 3070
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:04 am
Location: The Northland

Postby '00vegas-solara » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:43 pm

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

/\/\/\/\/\/\ This is how I feel right now! I have just installed an Alpine MRV-F450 AMP and it is clean. The clarity of my audio is excellent. I need to give a shout out to Prodigy69 for his help and advice. Now I just need to get a new subwoofer, and I’ll be set.
Image
User avatar
'00vegas-solara
Regular SolaraGuy Member
Regular SolaraGuy Member
 
Posts: 231
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:12 am
Location: Las Vegas, NV

Postby theprodigy79 » Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:53 am

That's a beautiful amp bro, glad that you're happy with it so far! What kinda sub are you lookin at getting?
'04 Solara SE Sport V6, all TRD + CP-e, gone but not forgotten... '09 G37S Sedan and '88 Supra Turbo project
Image
User avatar
theprodigy79
SolaraGuy Semi-Pro Racer
SolaraGuy Semi-Pro Racer
 
Posts: 3460
Joined: Tue May 17, 2005 8:12 am
Location: Northern Virginia (703)

Postby Monkeyman » Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:43 pm

Here is the view from an MECP installer (me, I used to work for Autosound in Norwood MA): You made a good choice with the Alpine amp. Tri mode pulls power away from the mids and highs when the bass hits (known as "Clipping"), so a five channel is a better idea (still not the best because all five channels are using the same power supply, so two seperate amps would be better).
While Soundblaster does make great sound cards, the outputs from them are only 1 volt (this is the standard voltage for non-mobile, audio pre-amped signals), so your amp has to work harder to produce high volume. To get the best sound from your amp and speakers, you should buy a head-unit with the highest output voltage possible (ie Eclipse CD-8445 = 8 volts, also the Eclipse keeps the signals in digital until it reaches the pre-amp, which SERIOUSLY limits induced noise, and keeps the THD -Total Harmonic Distortion- low) that fits your budget. In addition, who knows what the resistance in the signal path from your soundcard is. Lower is better, but I doubt it's very low from such a device. While I enjoy the idea of a computer in the car, and commend your efforts, they are not built to work with mobile electronics (they will work, just not as well).

Everyone who said things along the lines of "You get what you pay for" is right. Less expensive or "no-name" amps give their power ratings in Max, not RMS. RMS means "Root Mean Square" which translated to english (ha-ha-ha) means the amount of power the unit puts out consistantly. Max ratings are found either mathmaticly, or by testing the amp (at incredibly high voltage, often with a dirty signal) to artificially produce results which are higher than the amp can put out all the time. The Max numbers they give are an "If lighting strikes twice in the same place" number, and an amp can only provide that kind of power for a few nanoseconds. No-name amps also build their circuits to produce power at the lowest cost to them. This means that the sound from such an amp could potentially be out of phase, distorted.....junk.

I'll be honest and say that my opinions are sometimes biased, as I am an audiophile (Tube monoblock amps, tube tuner, and tube preamp at home, and I prefer records.....Records? YES, all psycho audiophiles listen to records), and am used to the best of the best (I should have bought a new house instead of my home stereo). I suggest the Eclipse CD-8445 or CD-8455 as your head unit because I have the CD-8455, and I gave up a McIntosh MX-406, for a Nakamichi CD-700II, and gave that up for the Eclipse. Nothing else has produced the clean, warm, high volume sound in my Solara like the Eclipse CD-8455.

Depending on what type of music you listen to your speakers could be great, to "OK." If you listen to house/techno/dance/trance then these speakers won't have the sound you are looking for. Every thing else will sound great. Silk dome tweeters produce a smoother, warmer sound. Would you rather be hit in the ear with a piece of metal, or a piece of silk?

Make sure the factory tweeters in your doors are disconnected, because they are too close to your listening position and will KILL your soundstage.

Lastly, every part of your system is important, from the head unit, to the RCA and speaker wires, to your amps. Wires really are important! Cheap wires produce what is called "Skin Effect," (out of phase) this means that the higher freq. signals run over the outside edges of the copper wires, while the lower freqs pass more slowly through the center. The result is a muddy sound which won't sound as good to you. I use Nordost Vallhalla RCA and speaker wires, but I am sure you could find wiring which sound great for far less.

I hope this helps your sound, and if you have any questions, feel free to PM me,

David
02 DWP; all TRD parts for 2.4L HT; Gold mirror windows; Nordost Valhalla, Eclipse CD8455, Morel / Renaissance, A/D/S pq40.2, Rockford Fosgate 500m, Garret T3/T4 ceramic bearing turbo.
Monkeyman
Regular SolaraGuy Member
Regular SolaraGuy Member
 
Posts: 131
Joined: Sat May 07, 2005 11:56 am
Location: Massachusetts
Previous

Return to A/V/N Gen 1 and 1.5

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 17 guests