Overheating amp....

by **cklinh** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:06 pm

Hey guys... need ideas on why my amp is overheating even though it's not being used much... it turned on fine in the morning (about 15 minutes)... now it won't turn on because of the overheating protection. The amp is not warm to the touch at all...

If it matters, it's a RF P5002 driving a PL2-210... (the amp has way more power than the subs, so I can't figure out why it's overheating...) Even the gain is set at its lowest...

Any ideas?

by **indiglosolara** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:19 pm

cklinh wrote:Hey guys... need ideas on why my amp is overheating even though it's not being used much... it turned on fine in the morning (about 15 minutes)... now it won't turn on because of the overheating protection. The amp is not warm to the touch at all...

If it matters, it's a RF P5002 driving a PL2-210... (the amp has way more power than the subs, so I can't figure out why it's overheating...) Even the gain is set at its lowest...

Any ideas?

How many amps are you running and what gauge power cable are you using???

Do you have the amp mounted so that its not getting enought air circulation??

by **cklinh** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:24 pm

Just 1 amp... 4 gauge power/ground... and air circulation shouldn't be a problem since I had my back seat down the entire time... the amp is mounted on the back of the box facing the back seat...

by **indiglosolara** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:37 pm

cklinh wrote:Just 1 amp... 4 gauge power/ground... and air circulation shouldn't be a problem since I had my back seat down the entire time... the amp is mounted on the back of the box facing the back seat...

well since its staying on protection now you might have a fuse that is blown or circuit board might be fried. i would bring it to a audo tech to look at it.

by **cklinh** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:12 pm

It's actually not in protect mode (so to say)... there's a separate LED for Protect, and that one is not on. Only the Thermal LED is on... and only when the bass hits...

Anyone with any other ideas? I'd rather just mess around a bit more before taking it to anyone to look at...

The thing that pisses me off is that it's not even room temperature to the touch... and it's been running all of 15-30 freaking minutes (I've let it rest plenty... it's also pretty cool here in San Francisco)...

by **Parke10** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:21 pm

cklinh wrote:Just 1 amp... 4 gauge power/ground... and air circulation shouldn't be a problem since I had my back seat down the entire time... the amp is mounted on the back of the box facing the back seat...

any installs i do i dont run less than 2 gauge i like to run 0 but i had a amp doin the same thing but it was cuz the internals were hot but the case was cold 2 touch but when i changed it from 8 to 2 it stoped,and it was only 200 watts.

by **MalBandito99** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 8:33 am

Shouldnt have any overheating problems due to the amp's location. I got my 1400 watt RMS amp in the same area, probably even smaller as its shut off completely from the trunk area because its on its own amp board, and its wedged behind the rear seats and behind my sub box. I dont overheat, but it does get a bit warm inside there.

by **pro956** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:41 pm

Parke10 wrote:
cklinh wrote:Just 1 amp... 4 gauge power/ground... and air circulation shouldn't be a problem since I had my back seat down the entire time... the amp is mounted on the back of the box facing the back seat...

any installs i do i dont run less than 2 gauge i like to run 0 but i had a amp doin the same thing but it was cuz the internals were hot but the case was cold 2 touch but when i changed it from 8 to 2 it stoped,and it was only 200 watts.

you simply had a problem with your wiring
either it was messed up from the start or something came a bit loose, or something started to touch something that it shouldn't have

congrats on wasting your money with bigger wiring

by **cklinh** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:59 pm

Quick question... I think I may have found my problem...

My amp will only do line-level inputs...

Let's say someone (not necessarily me) didn't know this, and tapped into the rear speakers for the input... without a line-level converter... speaker level input... correct?

And the speaker level input is considered "high level"? Which would lead the amp to think it's overheating? Please tell me it's right! I'm trying to track down the installer to see if he'd put in a line-level converter...

by **Parke10** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:35 pm

when u tap the back speakers u havta have a converter to rca if u want it for low lvl input on the sub

by **Parke10** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:37 pm

pro956 wrote:
Parke10 wrote:
cklinh wrote:Just 1 amp... 4 gauge power/ground... and air circulation shouldn't be a problem since I had my back seat down the entire time... the amp is mounted on the back of the box facing the back seat...

any installs i do i dont run less than 2 gauge i like to run 0 but i had a amp doin the same thing but it was cuz the internals were hot but the case was cold 2 touch but when i changed it from 8 to 2 it stoped,and it was only 200 watts.

you simply had a problem with your wiring
either it was messed up from the start or something came a bit loose, or something started to touch something that it shouldn't have

congrats on wasting your money with bigger wiring

not really a waste at all bigger wire, and cap = less dimming and trust me that was the prob.

by **pro956** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:46 pm

Parke10 wrote:
pro956 wrote:
Parke10 wrote:
cklinh wrote:Just 1 amp... 4 gauge power/ground... and air circulation shouldn't be a problem since I had my back seat down the entire time... the amp is mounted on the back of the box facing the back seat...

any installs i do i dont run less than 2 gauge i like to run 0 but i had a amp doin the same thing but it was cuz the internals were hot but the case was cold 2 touch but when i changed it from 8 to 2 it stoped,and it was only 200 watts.

you simply had a problem with your wiring
either it was messed up from the start or something came a bit loose, or something started to touch something that it shouldn't have

congrats on wasting your money with bigger wiring

not really a waste at all bigger wire, and cap = less dimming and trust me that was the prob.

trust me, that wasn't the problem 200 watts rms is a JOKE for 8gauge wiring

your problem was fixed simply because the wiring was re-done
not b/c you got bigger wires

by **cklinh** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 2:03 pm

Parke10 wrote:when u tap the back speakers u havta have a converter to rca if u want it for low lvl input on the sub

yeah... but what hapens _IF_ there wasn't a converter? like someone chopped off one end of a RCA cable and tapped directly in? would the amp think it's overheating?

by **B_Master_Flash** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 2:31 pm

cklinh wrote:
Parke10 wrote:when u tap the back speakers u havta have a converter to rca if u want it for low lvl input on the sub

yeah... but what hapens _IF_ there wasn't a converter? like someone chopped off one end of a RCA cable and tapped directly in? would the amp think it's overheating?

uhhhhhh... are you implying that you have rca's run from your deck which you cut to plug into the high level input on your sub? If so, thats just terrible. I had imagined you just plugged your speakerwire that used to be going to your rear speakers into the high level input on your amp, which would be correct. If that is the case you should probably try a converter to use low level input. Either way it should have nothing to do with your amp overheating, sounds like its just messed up.

by **B_Master_Flash** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 2:35 pm

pro956 wrote:
Parke10 wrote:
pro956 wrote:
Parke10 wrote:
cklinh wrote:Just 1 amp... 4 gauge power/ground... and air circulation shouldn't be a problem since I had my back seat down the entire time... the amp is mounted on the back of the box facing the back seat...

any installs i do i dont run less than 2 gauge i like to run 0 but i had a amp doin the same thing but it was cuz the internals were hot but the case was cold 2 touch but when i changed it from 8 to 2 it stoped,and it was only 200 watts.

you simply had a problem with your wiring
either it was messed up from the start or something came a bit loose, or something started to touch something that it shouldn't have

congrats on wasting your money with bigger wiring

not really a waste at all bigger wire, and cap = less dimming and trust me that was the prob.

trust me, that wasn't the problem 200 watts rms is a JOKE for 8gauge wiring

your problem was fixed simply because the wiring was re-done
not b/c you got bigger wires

Bigger wire plus caps totaly make your bass louder, I have 00 awg and a bat cap 800 going to my 45w x 2ch amp and it PWNS JOO!!!!!

LOL @ nooB myths

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